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Mel: I'm fine. She's fine. I mean, I'm good.

Suzie: She's British and she's holding it all in, pretty much.

Mel: There's an exterior of calm inside. It's crumbling. No, it isn't actually today, but, yeah, not today.

Suzie: Maybe tomorrow.

Mel: I mean, you'd never say in the UK if somebody actually said to you, how are you? Yeah, I don't give a **** how you are. You just say fine. Because we say that when we say hi.

We say, you're right, you're right. Yeah, we don't. It's like. But we don't care what the answer is. It's just so you get used to. It's really annoying. So if anybody does have a British friend or.

Here's that. And Brits always say, I'm fine. It's just you get programmed when you're not. Like, you'll go to the doctor and you'll. They'll say, how are you? And you'll say, fine, but you're not fine.

You're at the doctor's. Yeah, but we just programmed. I mean, that's like.

Suzie: I'm very much like a Canadian thing, too. It's like the very polite thing to say. Hey, how are you doing? Oh, I'm great. I'm good. How are you?

That's it. It's like. You really want to know what I am? It's. It's gonna be a paragraph long. Are you here for my monologue? Like, what do you want here?

Mel: Nobody cares.

Suzie: Yeah, exactly.

Mel: I know it's kind of strange.

Suzie: Start a vlog. Start a podcast about it, actually.

Mel: Yeah, it's strange. It is weird.

Suzie: So thanks. Thanks so much for us for tuning in. We Have a kind of fun little episode. Today we're going to talk about workplace relationships.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And when to kind of come to HR and do that. Obviously we want to preface that Mel and I are not lawyers.

Mel: No, we above.

Suzie: We are not employers of businesses that have people in an office.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: So we can't really talk about personal things like that. Or for your specific situation.

Situation. If you might.

So definitely do your own research if you are within a workplace romance, let's say do your own research of your own company. Because there's all different company policies for every single company.

So we are not giving advice of any sort, but we will give our obviously opinion about the situation.

And we're going to go off of an article as well from USA Today and there is someone from an HR who is chatting about, you know, what to do, what could you possibly do in that situation.

But yeah, definitely just do your own research if you are dealing with that.

Have you ever had a workplace romance, Mel?

Hmm.

Mel: Gosh, that's a long time ago.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: I mean I met my husband. Not we weren't working at the same place, but I was working with a friend, female friend. And then she left and went to work where he worked and they met and she kind of set us up.

Suzie: Right. I mean that's more through friends.

Mel: Yeah. But what I mean is it's not workplace. But we met. We all met because of work. And I think,

you know, in the golden olden days, people did.

Everybody I know, almost everyone met their partner via work.

Suzie: Right.

Mel: Very obviously that's where you are for huge chunks of your day.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: So. But now we've eliminated this and I think this is why this question has come up. Cause we've talked about it and we've talked about the app so much that we have essentially eliminated where you meet people, ie work, because everyone's so scared.

And the fact that this person in this article is having a relationship with a coat. So I guess co they're dating that way as opposed to that way that they actually think I have to go to hr, which I know nowadays is obviously a thing.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Is just kind of terrifying because you.

Suzie: Want to make sure that HR is aware just that if one party comes out and is like, oh, I wasn't consenting to this. Well, yeah, then you have to talk to HR and be like, no, this is a consenting adult relationship and we will let you know.

And I don't believe this is in my little personal opinion, but. But I don't believe that it is a problem. Like they can't tell you unless it's in your contract.

When you first sign on to a company that you can't date anyone in your company. I just feel like it shouldn't be a problem unless obviously it becomes a problem.

But they can't tell you what to do with your personal romantic life. It just can't get back into the workplace. Right. Like the drama can't get back into the workplace and then it's a problem, obviously.

Mel: Yeah. I think it depends on the company and certain environments where they're particularly frown upon.

Like people who are superior in the ladder of the career are dating somebody who's lower down. Whatever you call that. And you know that show with like.

Suzie: The CEO dating like a receptionist or like. What do you mean?

Mel: Yeah, kind of thing. Or, you know, let's say the marketing director is dating a sales exec to somebody in sales. And of course, that was also very common.

The boss dating the secretary. I mean, how many secretaries?

Suzie: Well, the affair, for sure.

Mel: Yeah, for sure. And then also the. What like, you know, that's how they met. Which is kind of funny. But you know that show with Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston? It's on Apple.

Give me a good plug here. Apple. What the hell's it called this morning?

Suzie: Oh, the morning show. The morning show.

Mel: And it starts with this. I think it's based on this famous story of this.

Suzie: What's his face.

Mel: Yeah, and cnn.

You see, we're great, aren't we? I know a morning. A famous morning show. But the point of the thing is this guy gets is. Goes like for years having affairs with subordinates or whatever you call them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he. I mean, it seems like a lot of the time it's consenting. But I think the gray.

Suzie: Until it wasn't. Until it was.

Mel: But he was having affairs with all the other women. But they were all lower down than him.

Suzie: Right, Exactly.

Mel: And it does come into this thing of like. Well, if they're lower down, does that mean he's coercing them? So where's the line between. No, he just happens to be in this.

Suzie: Well, exactly.

Mel: Anyway. And that was a big part of the show. And then, you know, he was a creep and everything else. But there are a lot of instances where. Well, if you're the marketing director or the CEO or the cfo, whatever,

who are you dating up. You kind of gotta go down, right? So. But you could just have met that. You could just. Obviously you're not a creep. You've just connected with that person.

But that is hugely problematic. And there are lots of companies that do have rules, obviously, if you work for university or you work for a school, or I guess if you work in television.

There's been lots of stories in the UK press about tons of stuff about people when they shouldn't have been having affairs and they've kind of lost their jobs.

So obviously it is in policies. I've never seen it. Well, it's a long time ago.

Suzie: I. I mean, I used to, like. I mean, I was. When I was working in a bar. Everyone was.

Mel: But they must have been.

Suzie: Yeah, everyone. You know what I mean? You work in a restaurant. It's like, you know, you're one, like, kind of ancestral little family in your restaurant. Um.

Mel: Is it in the.

Suzie: It's not great, because I was dating one of, like, our. More like manager people.

Mel: Right.

Suzie: And I mean, it never really. Nothing was a problem. Like, it was like, I was young. I moved away, like, shortly after we broke up. Like, it wasn't like that big of a deal.

Um. But, yeah, I mean, it's not. I don't think they like it. But I do know a lot of relationships that are still doing really well that met in bars and restaurants that, like, we're working together.

Because that's how you met. That's. You literally lived in that restaurant. Want for.

Mel: Yeah. But you're working something. You understand something about each other.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Which is kind of why it works. You're meeting in a place of common.

Suzie: Well, and then. So my most recent place. Because I quit my job. Hello, I'm a free little birdie.

So my. My most recent place of employment. Like, I remember going to, like, we have these. They had these conventions and,

you know, people are having affairs.

Mel: Of course they are.

Suzie: With the.

Mel: It.

Suzie: Like, it doesn't matter.

Mel: Like, and especially when it's a way of.

Suzie: Exactly.

Mel: That is a.

Suzie: That's when this. And there's obviously alcohol involved and everyone looks hot new.

Mel: It's a new people. It is a fest like that.

Suzie: It is. And like, everyone. It's fudged up. Like, I didn't have a boyfriend when I went. So, like, I was sleeping with people, you know? And, like, there's other people that are, like, 100, cheating on their wives.

Like, it's very known and, like, it is crazy what these people are doing. And everyone. Like, it's an international company.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: People are like, oh, my God, I'm never gonna see you again. This is perfect.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: You know what I mean?

Mel: It's very common, but it's also this thing of, like, people kind of go to, like an outside. Outside the office, outside their life. It's like a different. And somehow the rules change.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: It's like you're on a bachelorette, a person or something weird. You know, look, if you're trying to.

Suzie: Sleep with someone, just go on an office trip.

Mel: Yeah, I mean, I guess.

Suzie: And everyone's in a hotel.

Mel: I never had, you know, attractive colleagues, but.

Suzie: Yeah, but you're just not that kind of. Yeah. Person. Doesn't really matter if they're attractive. They're from a foreign country. And you're like, yeah, I'll. You.

Mel: Fair enough. I mean, fair enough.

Suzie: I'm sure you get lots of the men. Lots of the year. The Americans.

What you. If you were to go on a trip because you're the cool girl from a foreign country, you're the little hot.

Mel: Little British chick, Right? Yeah. Okay. But it is obvious. I mean, you're. You're. It's. You're gonna meet, you're gonna. You're gonna. Whatever you're gonna do.

Suzie: Exactly.

Mel: But yeah, I mean, it's a hotbed of stuff. And at work, like, I know in from, you know, years ago, so many people who were like, you know, ******** in the toilets or when they used to have stationary cupboards, they don't really have those anymore.

Suzie: Like pantry things. Like, little.

Mel: Was that an English thing where, like, all the paper and all the things.

Suzie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mel: I don't know. We don't really need that anymore.

Suzie: Right.

Mel: People have stationary cupboards.

Suzie: Sure they do.

Mel: I'm sure in hospitals, like nurses and doctors.

Suzie: Oh, my God.

Mel: And I don't just mean male and female because the nurse could be male and the doctor could be female. It's like that's where you spend your life. So you're gonna **** in the.

Suzie: In the. Whatever room. It's called where the Grey's Anatomy was always.

Mel: It's that other show I used to watch. I can't remember.

Suzie: There's everyone sleeping. There's House. Yeah, I'm re watching House, which I'm obsessed with again. That's such a good show.

Mel: Hugh Laurie, such a good actor.

Suzie: I want to.

Mel: Very British, you know?

Suzie: I know. I love him. Anyways. Yeah. Grey's Anatomy, House. Everyone's fudgeing in all these shows because.

Mel: That'S where they spend all their time. If you eliminate the thing where you spend all your time, where are you meeting people? And then you go onto the apps and then we know the problems of that.

But There are lots of crake. People are nuts. Right. And you could be like, this person is talking about, should I tell hr? Because you could actually be dating and you've been out and everything's fine and you like each other and then some person becomes a psycho.

And you don't know that person is going to become a psycho until they become a psycho. And it could be male or female.

And I mean, when I was working in office, like I think my sort of late 20s,

men were just outrageous. And I've talked about this before.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: They were just gross.

Suzie: And they think they could just say anything to you. Oh my God, did HR even exist back then?

Mel: Yeah, but it did. Nobody did anything. Nobody complained, Just went out.

Suzie: What a good job for HR to have.

Mel: I know.

Suzie: They don't do anything.

Mel: Yeah, no, they didn't do anything.

Suzie: Now it's now hr, I'm sure, is the busiest.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: The busiest part of the company.

Mel: Absolutely.

Suzie: Oh my gosh.

Mel: Absolutely. And I don't know, and it's a good question if anybody is an employment lawyer, what happens if you meet somebody at a job, like a co worker? So you're like horizontally dating?

I don't mean you.

Suzie: No. Yeah.

Mel: You know, somebody of equal, you know, stature and you genuinely, you know.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Like each other and have a nice relationship. But it says in your policies that you can't do it. But you both say it's okay, we're consenting.

Suzie: What, you want to keep it secret?

Mel: Then what happens?

Suzie: You keep it secret.

Mel: Actually, I know people wear that like lawyers.

Suzie: It's a problem until someone gets pregnant.

Mel: Well, apparently when you get married, it's all fine, right? Exactly. How do you think we got to being married?

Suzie: Exactly.

Mel: It's quite funny, isn't it? Yeah.

But it's a huge problem if you eliminate the workplace. And I think it's also this concept that we're all going to work and somehow we're androids, we're not attracted to each other.

Which is just like ridiculous because not only are you seeing that person every day in different situations in kind of different outfits and like you're not seeing anybody like that.

You went on dates, you wouldn't see person as much, but you're eliminating and that.

Suzie: Well, you're kind of dating. And this is what happened to me when I was dating the guy who I was like when I was working at the bar. And it's like you're dating out of convenience.

Mel: Yeah, I'm just.

Suzie: That's all it is.

Mel: Yeah. I mean, I think to be Honest.

Suzie: Because, like, you can't meet anyone else. You're literally working there so hard all the time. Late nights. He's sexy. Sexy. You're kind of horny during the day sexy.

Mel: And then. Yeah.

Suzie: And you have a drink after work.

Mel: And you're ******* all goes to. Yeah,

but that's the thing about hospitals. Like, if you don't, you work all day in hospital hours and hours and hours. Where else are you doing this thing? Although to me, the idea of like being in scrubs,

like standing up against a.

Suzie: Any person. Yeah. No, it's not great.

Mel: It's not good, is it? So let's just get to, let's move on from that.

Suzie: Get to like, let's just start with the first question that this article talks about. So this person asks.

I've been dating a co worker for the last couple months. We have an upcoming company social event and want to attend the event together. Should we reveal our relationship before the party?

And what's the best way to do so? Okay, so it's kind of a long answer about this HR person, but I will get to the nitty gritty of it. Okay, so.

So they say, start by reviewing your company's policies on workplace relationships. Obviously, the best thing to do, right? That would be small employee dating or personal relationships. If your employer has a formal policy, ensure that you and your partner comply with that policy and any disclose disclosure requirements.

These policies are typically in place not to interfere in your personal life, but to prevent potential conflicts of interest, favoritism concerns, or workplace disruptions. The favoritism is the huge one, right?

Mel: Yeah, of course.

Suzie: I think a lot of people, even if they haven't their boss, but they're flirting with their boss for sure. I've done it. Yeah, I'm guilty.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Like,

you get away with so much stuff and sometimes you need to in a ****** workplace, right? Like, I mean. So then she goes on, if your company does not require disclosure, you and your partner should still consider how your workplace will perceive the relationship.

Many employees are comfortable with workplace relationships, but transparency can help prevent unnecessary speculation or awkwardness at work. A simple professional acknowledgement, such as informing your direct supervisor HR can demonstrate your commitment to maintaining workplace professionalism.

So good advice. I mean, like, just don't be,

don't be like obvious at work, right? Like, don't be like smacking each other's ***** and like, making out in the coffee room, right? Like, keep it professional, keep it cute.

And then you guys can **** on your desks after five.

Mel: Nice. Right? Lovely. Yeah. Well, yes, there's that. Susie's input, but there's also. I mean, what if you break up and it's gonna be really uncomfortable. Yeah. So you kind of need to.

Obviously, you should stay professional at work because it's also irritating for everyone else.

Suzie: Oh, my God. Of course.

Mel: It's really annoying. But also, you know, if you're not sort of some way into the relationship, you just don't know what's gonna happen. And then if you break up, that's really annoying.

No, it's never the same. Whatever people say. You can never sort of look at somebody and think, you know, like, you have an argument at work or whatever and you've broken up, then you remember you've seen that person naked.

You know, I mean, it's like it changes everything, doesn't it?

Suzie: I mean, there's this whole thing about, like. And then, I mean, let's talk about more, like, office relationships, even, like, just being in that office environment, like, setting those boundaries with, like, even colleagues and your boss.

Right. Like, not even just, like, sexual boundaries, obviously. Like, you know, don't touch me. Don't talk to me like that. But also, like, don't call me after work. Like, all of these things that, like.

Like, you. You worked in Paris, right? You worked in France. Isn't there, like, a French thing where, like, people don't care about their jobs and they care about only, like, their life outside of work?

Where in, like, North America, we're very, like, programmed to be like, you're always on. You always have your email on. You're like, you always have to answer the phone when it's ringing, even if it's a Saturday or after 5 and things like that.

Like, what are your thoughts on that? I feel like you always were in the office, but now being out of that office environment and you're like, okay, we're over that.

Mel: Yeah. I mean, I think they did showcase that in Emily in Paris. Like, the idea that she's American, she into the French environment. And obviously that's very, very staged and very stylized or whatever.

But there's an element of truth in that.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: That Europeans. I don't mean Brits, Europeans, Continental Europeans, what we call them in the uk. Well, actually, we don't think they're in Europe,

so now that we're in Europe. But anyway, never mind. Forget that is they do prioritize life,

family,

fun, food over every weekend. Yeah.

Suzie: The summertime.

Mel: They're not like, Americans. Yeah. Like, you know, you will go to Europe and everyone's.

I mean, I spend a lot of time in Spain and in August, you know, good luck, you know, or in France getting anything done. I used to live in Italy for many years, and, yeah, there's nobody there.

Don't do any kind of major transaction in August. I mean, probably give up in July. Like, do it, you know, it's a different idea.

Suzie: Wow.

Mel: It's a different.

Yeah. They prioritize life. Obviously, there are many downsides to that. And the reason Americans are so incredibly successful is because they work all the time and it's not complicated, but somehow you want to kind of get a balance because otherwise why are you working?

Like, if you don't have a life, what's the point?

Suzie: Exactly.

Mel: So I do think it is a very North American thing, like being always on.

But I do think, obviously technology is really problematic. I have that, you know, as, you know, my own businesses. And you've got all these ways people can contact you, which is why I quite like going on planes.

I know planes do have wi fi, but it's not.

Suzie: You pretend that they don't, though.

Mel: Yeah, exactly. It's like they can get you on the app, whatever app you're communicating in, then text, then social media, then.

And it's just like, oh, my God, go away.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And it's Saturday, go away.

And that is a problem. It's different if you work for yourself, if you have your own company versus working for somebody else. I do think Europeans are much better at the balance, but then there are problems.

You make less money if you. If you work in Paris, you'll make less money than if you live and work in New York.

Suzie: Well, it's just funny, though, because, like, obviously, like, the. The, like, the quality of life is way better. I mean, not that I've ever lived in Europe.

Mel: It's way better.

Suzie: But the quality of life is better in Europe for most people than it is in New York, right? Yeah, you're so stressed out and you're on. You're constantly on. And like, yeah, there's all these things you have to think about.

Mel: I mean, New York is a very specific place and not really very kind of demonstrative of the rest of the United States. But I like, Toronto is not what the rest of Canada's like.

On the flip side, you know, living in most of the United States and most of Canada, you can have a very nice life, a very nice house, a lot of space.

That is not the case in Europe. We don't have lots of space. So I guess it really is about what is important. To you? Is it important to you? Going out, eating out, having fun, seeing your friends, go and live in Paris or Amsterdam or Rome or London or whatever.

If you want lots of space and you want to live in the countryside and you, no, maybe that's not a great idea, you know what I mean? Go and live in North Carolina or Alberta or something like you'll have lots of space or rural Ontario.

So it depends what's important to you. But I think this, there are more boundaries. For sure. For sure. And I've seen it with friends that I know who have very high level jobs and they're like, you know, particularly in Spain and they're like, yeah, it's summer.

I go into the office at like 10. You're like, what? Same job in London, even New York, you're in the office at seven, maybe six, maybe, you know, you don't go, oh, yeah, I've got to go home for dinner with the kids.

No, that. Who, what, what children? You know, you have somebody who looks after them kind of thing. Yeah. So, you know, but obviously there are downsides to everything. There are consequences for that.

For more, for a better quality of life. You inevitably earn less money, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, you know, if you work in the United States or even Canada, the salaries are much better on the whole.

Suzie: And then in Europe, like, are you, I mean, do you see more people sleeping with their bosses and things like that?

Mel: That's a good question.

Suzie: More affairs in the workplace than in maybe North America, London, I think.

Mel: I think people are less puritanical about sex. They're like less worked up about it. Especially in Canada and the United States. It's like just everyone, you know, people find it hard to even talk about it.

It's so ridiculous. And I don't, I don't feel that's the case. Yeah, people are more open. Even. Even in the uk, everyone thinks we're all super cold ice queen.

Suzie: You guys have naked shows on your.

Mel: We're much more relaxed about it. Nobody gives a. It's a *****. Who cares?

You don't have DK's.

Even, even in magazines. Like, you'll pick up. And I've sent you many articles from British magazines where, you know, they're like, what do you call them? Like, what would you call them in North America?

Like, like the L. What do you call those kind of magazines? Not like, not like tabloid, like fashion or whatever magazine. Like women magazines that women read. Yeah, yeah. And we have all, like magazines, particularly in the uk, for all age groups, all of them.

Have sex articles. Really? Oh, my God, yeah. Yeah. So the ones like.

Suzie: Not just a Cosmo, right?

Mel: Yeah, not just like you'd think, oh, 20 year olds. And it's about sex. No, the magazines geared, like. There's a sort of magazine in England that's probably geared towards women in their 30s and 40s called Red always has sex in it.

There's a magazine hilariously called Good Housekeeping. Is it called Good Housekeeping? Yeah, something housekeeping. And that's really meant for slightly old, like 40s onwards. There's always sex in there.

Suzie: I swear to God. We're getting a little off topic, but I swear to God,

that Cosmo, last time I read a Cosmo, which was like years ago, but Cosmo took. Because they used to have a nasty story at the back.

Mel: I know.

Suzie: Magazine. And they took it out. They don't do that anymore. And I'm like, yeah, I remember summer camp. We would always like Regan, our Cosmos. And it was always like a nasty little excerpt from a story.

Mel: It was always sexy.

Suzie: It was always a sexy story. And we would look forward to it all summer camp. And then I don't know when they got rid of it, but I remember the last time I picked up a Cosmo, they didn't have it.

Mel: Probably get sued. I was like, ******* people get.

And we're not making any comment about what is going on at the moment.

Yeah, whatever.

Based in Canada. Not going to say anything about that.

Suzie: But so polite of us.

Mel: But I mean, I just think the main thing is how do you find somebody, date somebody, if you eliminate this place where we all spend lots of time.

Suzie: Well, it's like we've eliminated the office though, even.

Mel: Right. Well, and that's another thing. And it was interesting. Like, one of my daughters was gonna work kind of here downtown. And I was thinking about it and she ended up getting a job away this summer.

But it was like, you know, you're 20, 21, you want to be socializing, going out. But all the jobs like you apply in banks, law firms. Most of the people only go into the office two days a week.

Yeah. Yeah. There is no social life. I mean, so I think that is very much a North America. Well, particularly in Canada, we seem to still be going with that.

Not so much in London. I don't know that many people who are younger who are doing that. Well, I think people enjoy their.

Suzie: Don't people enjoy their office time more in Lond. Like, it's kind of more fun.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: So you have to go for drinks. You can tell you told me this before.

Mel: Yeah. So that is something. You know, even when I was in the office, you had to go out, you had to, you had no choice, you had to go during the week.

Then Friday, sometimes you had to sort of run away. Cause like, I do have other people in my life, thanks very much. And you have to drink. That is part of our culture.

The thing though that was. Is different is when I was much younger, people drank during the day and then that stopped.

And even in the States, I mean, that stopped and people drank in the evening. But it is very social. Like, you know, I don't know, people watch British TV shows, they're always going, do you want to grab a drink?

We do that. It's very normal. So we move down the pub. Exactly. So then that starts a problem because then you've got alcohol and we are very bad at controlling our consumption of alcohol.

Alcohol is always with sex. It's always a bad. You know, we know, we know what happens.

Suzie: Like, what are you going to do?

Mel: From beer goggles to the fact that Drama. You have no boundaries. You're going to have sex with somebody.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: I mean, I really do hope for you it's not in a toilet because I, I many questions about that bit of a hygiene.

Suzie: Oh, that's so funny.

Mel: Anyway, we won't discuss.

Suzie: She's not judging anyone who likes toilet sex, by the way.

Mel: Well, maybe like a little bit, yeah. Have you seen what people do in toilets?

Suzie: Yeah, no, I've actually something surprising you might want to know. I've never had sex in a public bathroom.

Mel: I. I'm speechless.

Suzie: I know. Me too, to be honest.

Mel: What about a toilet on a plane?

Suzie: No. Ew. What I had to think about.

Mel: Oh, my God. Thank you.

Suzie: The toilet on the plane are the most.

Mel: But that's when ball. Oh.

Suzie: How do you even get two people in there?

Mel: I just. But Mile High Club, that's where most of it happens. In the loot. Yeah.

Suzie: I've had sex in some dirty places, but I've never had sex in a public bathroom.

Mel: Well, what's dirtier than a public bathroom?

Suzie: Well, I don't know if there's more dirty. I mean, I've had. I've had sex outside, you know, like I've had sex in a. I remember I used to be a lifeguard.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: And one of like the older lifeguards.

Mel: Right.

Suzie: I. We had sex in like the pool kind of where they keep. This is so fcked up. Where they keep like the chlorine.

Mel: Surely that'd be very clean.

Suzie: No, it was not.

Mel: But that cannot.

Suzie: It's like a shed. Oh, I see.

Mel: Where they keep it clean. Oh, I see what you mean.

Suzie: Like.

Mel: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting.

Suzie: So, I mean, there's places like that, but maybe public bathroom is never. It's on my list, you know.

Mel: But the. Yeah, I mean, so we're talking about. So we got way off track.

Suzie: That was in the workplace, kind of, yes.

Mel: What was in those policies, do you remember?

Suzie: Oh, I was definitely frowned upon, I'm assuming.

Mel: But yeah.

Suzie: Not like anyone knew.

Mel: I think largely most companies obviously frown upon it because people become psychos and accuse people of doing all sorts of things now. They do.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: For sure. Yeah. And then because people break up. I mean, most people break up and then you're still ****** there. But it doesn't change the fact that people are in an office space and they're attracted to each other.

What do you think? Like, it's just gonna. Oh, yeah, we're just gonna pretend this isn't here. Yeah. It's a huge problem.

I. I just. I find it, like, very difficult, but yeah, I suppose to understand, like, what you do if you don't meet people in a workplace or through friends who've worked.

Like, you meet a lot of your friends through work as well, of course, and then they may connect you to somebody. And I suppose that's okay because it's outside of work,

but still, you know, it's through work indirectly, isn't it?

Suzie: Just get a job and you'll get ******. I think that's what we're just trying to say. Get a job, get laid.

Mel: Well, I guess, like, so many people today do work remotely.

Suzie: That's a problem. But this is why everyone's single.

Mel: It's a huge problem. If you're in your 20s or your early 30s and you're single and you're getting up every day in your gym jams or whatever the hell you do, and you go to your laptop.

Yeah. And you have 50,000 zooms. I have lots of zooms. I know what it's like. It's mindless.

Suzie: Well, just being a single person out here today, like, crazy. It's exhausting. You're on the zooms and whatever all the time.

Mel: Right.

Suzie: Like, you're on your computer. You're not really talking to anyone else unless you're on the apps, which we've talked about, obviously. Like, I'm single. I'm like, the fact, like, people, like, get.

Being single in this day and age is so hard. Like.

Like after Covid times, it is so hard to be single. And I'm not saying like it's impossible to find someone, but there is just this like thing about being like, where do you meet anyone anymore?

Well, yeah, and no one wants to.

Mel: Talk to anyone anymore. If you don't meet at work and then you have a job which is a hybrid or very remote.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Then even if you go into the office,

going in once a week is not going to create any kind of relationships. You're, you know, at all. And then I think then we can't be asked to go in as you know, you're like, ugh, you know, I don't want to go in because I.

Suzie: Yeah, I know that part.

Mel: Yeah. I mean yesterday I was in. I actually had to go to a doctor's appointment. I was in one of those huge high rises here in Toronto. And like at the bottom there's like a food court.

Terrible food. But anyway. Oh yeah. And then you have offices and then you have apartments and I'm literally just eating some inane food and this girl goes past me and I would say she was in late 20s, early 30s, in her pajamas.

Suzie: Oh my God.

Mel: And her slides.

I mean, I ******* hope those were her pajamas and she doesn't work in those. And clearly she lived in the building and she'd gone to get her lunch. She looked like a zombie.

Like she looked like she got out of bed, you know that look in these little like cartoon pajamas and clearly had not had a shower. You know, like people look in that pajama.

Suzie: I just can't believe people go outside like that. I know.

Mel: I want. So as you like.

Suzie: It's like you go down like you're built like I know living in a condo. Like you go down, you get your food from the person at the door. Like that's different.

But you're literally in public now.

Mel: She was in a so called public place. All that stuff is onto her pajamas and then into her bed. Anyway. But that's the way my brain goes. That's where my brain goes.

But the point I'm making is if you have that kind of little interest, respect, whatever for yourself that you're working on, whatever she's doing. This is the middle of the week and you are in your gym jams at 2 o'clock in the afternoon.

Suzie: Your clients don't work downtown because if they saw that, that would be like unbelievable.

Mel: Working in a public place. But that isn't uncommon. Yeah, you know all you. I saw this picture of the other day of Kevin O'Leary and he's doing like a, an interview or something.

And the bottom half is like, he was actually wearing shorts and slides in the top. He was wearing a suit. But a lot of people, you know, that's what I did when I was working on pajamas.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And so that does kind of feed into everything, doesn't it? And then if you're going into an office and you're going in, like I said twice a week, you're just going in, blah, blah, blah.

And leaving the other thing too, where.

Suzie: It'S like the people. I don't know if anyone like people look like these days. Not to be so rude about it, but like I'm like, I work downtown for quite a while and the girls and guys.

But honestly sometimes it's mostly girls where they like, they come in, they don't look great. You know, because now it's acceptable to wear sneakers to work.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Right. And like you don't look great. And so for, I mean, this is such a personal thing for me where it's like, if I don't look good, I'm not going to feel good.

Mel: That you can't function.

Suzie: I don't like, I'm like constantly like just like thinking about my appearance in the way of like, ugh, I don't feel great, I feel gross. I feel ugly. Like, I mean that's just being a woman.

But like there is that, that thing of just like,

you know, how are you going to. You can't just meet somebody. I mean you could but like.

Mel: Yeah. That attention.

Suzie: I know the potential of meeting somebody in person when you don't look your best, even when you're in the office is so low though.

Mel: That is a very, like the Brits are like that terribly dressed look. Terrible. The American. Yeah. And North America. Well, compared to you. You go to Spain. Well, you go to Paris.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Or Rome and you go into an office. I mean everyone looks like amazing. Amazing. And their clothes like I love just watching people go. But it's so interesting, you know, because everyone looks good.

Like you'll be in a supermarket.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And you'll get like this little old couple and they'll look fabulous. They've just gone shopping, you know, they've just gone shopping anyway. But yeah, this thing, I don't know what you do, but I think it's interesting.

Like this article, this person is thinking about it. I think that's pretty sensible. If this is a long term relationship and you're like, ****, I probably should, you know, talk to HR or whatever.

I don't know. What the answer is, I'm not a lawyer. I think it's tragic that we have to do this.

Suzie: Right?

Mel: I think it's tragic the amount of people that do that have to be.

Suzie: Involved in a relationship.

Mel: I know.

Suzie: Yeah,

but just be smart about it too. Like, don't, like, be like, weird and flirty in front of your co workers or, like, be like, sexual with people with your person.

Like, it. Just try not to get in trouble. Right? Like, that's what it is.

Mel: It's just like, yeah, it's gross.

Suzie: It's like, we're here to work.

Mel: You're annoying.

Suzie: And then you can after, like, exactly.

Mel: Just do that outside of work because it annoys everyone. Because then it's annoying if you're single and you're like, oh, my God, you have to watch this all day. Right? It's very annoying, isn't it?

Right? Anyway, that's my piece.

Suzie: Anyways, darlings, if you guys have had a work relationship and you guys want to talk to us about it, you can go to sharement.com where you can send us a little email about it or you can DM us on any of our socials at tremetooth Pod.

We'd love to hear from you. I know this is actually like quite a big thing. I feel like a lot of people have situations like this where they've dated somebody in the workplace and their boss finds out or it wasn't allowed or you broke up and it was horrible and then you.

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