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Hey, babes.

Mel: Hello, darling.

Suzie: I can't do it as well as you can. It's because you have that, like, French accent that you can do this.

Oh,

don't do it. Hold on. Open that for me. We have a fun little episode for everyone. Everyone loves when we talk about cheating, so we're just gonna keep talking about it until everyone doesn't want to listen to us anymore.

Mel: Yeah, no, it seems to be a.

Suzie: Thing and we love to talk about it because it is a hot little topic. And as we've said before, everyone cheats.

Mel: Yes. That's the other thing. We differ on this. Yeah, we happily, agreeably differ.

Suzie: Yeah. I mean, obviously not everyone cheats, but. And just the fact that we don't, we.

Mel: It's.

Suzie: It's very taboo. No one wants to talk about it when it happens. Everyone kind of wants to be like, oh, the cheater's the bad person.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: When it's like, might not be the case every time.

Mel: Well, it's not that simple, is it?

Suzie: It's not that simple.

Mel: Sometimes it is.

Suzie: You're right.

Mel: Sometimes people are just ********.

Suzie: Horrible people.

Mel: Yeah. And sometimes it's just not that simple.

Suzie: No.

And so we actually have an article here. I'm going to read just some of it and we're going to talk about it. And it's from Stylist magazine and it's a really recent article.

And it's. The title is, I'm a psychologist who picks up the pieces after affairs. These are the five things I've learned about people who cheat.

So,

I mean, that's a lot. Five things you learn about people who cheat. Like, it's like, why, why people do it, what happens afterwards. Right.

And how she starts off is the aftermath of infidelity can cause huge emotional ruptures for even the strongest of relationships. But when one in five British, obviously this is a British magazine.

One in five British adults admit they've had sex with someone other than their spouse. It raises the question, just why are so many people inclined to be unfaithful? And do those who cheat have Anything in common?

Dr. Janine Hayward, a clinical psychologist and infidelity expert. Wow.

Shares five lessons she's learned from over a decade of working with couples who have navigated and survived affairs.

I mean, personally, could you survive an affair?

Mel: No.

Suzie: Right. Wouldn't even think about it.

Mel: I wouldn't go that far. Purely because it's a lot to throw away, you know, a long relationship.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: When infidelity can happen very easily.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: You know, but I'd find it really, really hard to get past. I'm not saying I wouldn't,

because, again, I wouldn't judge anybody for staying together because there are lots of different reasons, and it's very difficult and just to say. And I think women are very inclined to tell other women, right, he's cheated on you.

I mean, get out of there. Obviously it happens the other way, but we always think of it in that scenario. Get out. That's it, you know, blah, blah, blah. But you don't throw away, you know, years and years and years together and shared life and everything necessarily that easily.

So I'm not saying. And I touch. Where's the wood? Where's the wood?

But I would find it very difficult,

extremely difficult to get past.

Suzie: Yeah. I mean,

I think it obviously depends on the situation and, like, what have they done to cheat? Right. Like, because it's like we talked about this before is, you know, dirty texting, cheating.

Right. Like, there's cheating on different levels for different kind of people. And, like, where you see that level crossed, Right?

Mel: Yeah. And it's much easier today, let's be frank, because there are so many different ways people are looking at images all the time.

In a sense, are they being tempted in a way that they weren't? Because it's all in your face.

Obviously, if all you get on your Instagram page or whatever socials you're looking at is young women with large bosoms, obviously that's what you were looking at to start with.

So, you know, it's not really that much of a, you know, get out free jail card, but, you know, it's just very easy to communicate with people, which it wasn't years ago.

And I saw somebody talking about this on a one of the sort of famous podcasts that he was a divorce lawyer, and he was saying, it's just so easy to cheat now on different levels.

Because of the way you communicate with people.

Suzie: 100%. And I want to. There's just in the beginning of this article they have a little, some statistics and this is based on people in the uk, but I think our society and the.

Exactly. It's very similar.

So they say 27 is the age you're most likely to meet your spouse. Yeah, I'm past that age, so I guess I'm ******.

But one third of marriages end in divorce. Okay. And 84% of people have been ghosted by someone on a dating app.

So obviously because, you know,

but there's just so many ways. So she says, like this clinical psychologist. Um, she starts off saying not everyone who cheats is unhappy with their current partner.

Mel: Yeah. I think that's, there's an element of truth to that.

Suzie: I think people are just bored or there's something else going on in their lives that they need an escape from.

Mel: A hundred percent. I, I was talking to somebody about this yesterday that a lot of people use sex as a way of healing themselves from trauma. It isn't a very effective thing, but it's a human,

a very human thing to do to kind of,

you're suffering something or in trauma and so you use sex like a body experience to kind of get away from it.

So I think there could be something going in your life or unfortunately you just get yourself into a situation, you get drunk, you're at a. Some kind of thing and **** happens and you know, somebody catches you at a weak moment, I suppose.

Suzie: No. Yeah. So she,

she explains that like she's seen instances in her clinical work that where a person is cheated to fulfill a curiosity or sexual preference that they don't feel comfortable or safe exploring with their current relationship.

So if somebody grows up in a household, we're talking about relationships and sex is taboo, they might develop a belief that sexual curiosity isn't appropriate to be explored within a marriage or a long term partnership.

So they seek it out outside of that.

Mel: Yeah, I think that's very common.

Suzie: Yeah. And well that's the thing. It's like we don't. If you're meeting your partner super young, like 20, 27 is young.

Like you're in your 20s, you're still exploring. You really don't know what you're doing with your life. Probably possibly just figuring it out.

And so it's like, yeah, you do. There are sexual things that maybe you do want to explore that you don't feel comfortable yet doing. And so you get to get into this pattern of like sexuality with that partner you're with.

And so how do you get out of that kind of pattern?

Mel: Well, yeah. And if you have something that you think they may think is a bit.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Kind of weird or a bit weird, little foot fetish and you're scared to bring it up with them.

I think a lot of men can sort of particularly mention. Maybe really put their wife on a pedestal.

Suzie: Yes.

Mel: And then they just like. They almost.

Suzie: It's like the Madonna and the *****.

Mel: Yeah, exactly.

Suzie: Very much so.

And she continues to say she's like. Many cheaters I work with think that secrecy is kind, but I would say it's the opposite. It erodes trust and connection. The fear of judgment or rejection is, of course, a very human response.

But that kind of secrecy and inauthenticity will take its toll on all parties.

Mel: I agree.

Suzie: I agree with that, too. But I also think if someone is cheating, most likely that relationship's dead anyways.

Mel: Yeah. For the most part.

Suzie: Do you know what I mean? Like,

of course. Like, you don't want to tell your partner that you. Someone else.

Right. I don't like. And she. I'm assuming she's gonna explain how. How they've navigated that because they've survived the relationship.

But, like, if you are looking outside to find something else,

how you're never gonna be able to find that within, most likely. Do you know what I mean? Cause there's that reason that you went outside anyways.

Mel: Yeah. I think something's gone wrong.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Or you're not communicating well.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: I think what she's saying, it doesn't mean that the partner isn't in love with their spouse or partner if they cheat. It's just that there is something's gone wrong or they're in a bit where things are not so great or whatever it is.

Generally that's what happens. It is very true to say that people who cheat, it doesn't mean they don't love their main partner. They're seeking something else in somebody else. And that's men and women.

I think we have a perception it's only men. And I don't think that's true. I think that's very untrue.

Suzie: No, I agree. And so the next one she says is that most affairs are a matter of impulse.

So they don't plan it, it just happens. You meet someone sexy at the bar, you're a little drunk, your inhibitions are lowered, and you want to ****.

Mel: Well, that's the nature of sex, isn't it? I mean, you know, that's the nature of. And obviously, and we've talked about this in past episodes, the more you get into a relationship and this idea of sort of being more planned about it, taking the sexiness out, blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah. And the more you are in a relationship, let's say both partners are working, you have children, blah, blah, you have lives. There's very little time for the two of you.

So then often you do, like, plan it. Even if you're not actually planning the day. It's date night or whatever it is.

Suzie: You know you're gonna have sex after. Yeah.

Mel: So. Or every. Every Saturday night or whatever it is. And it becomes very unspontaneous. And obviously, you know, the nature of sex or being aroused is this rather feeling. Right. And so, of course, it's impulsive.

And that's the problem is it's. It's. It's. You do it in the time because it makes you feel good in that moment. And then afterwards, you're like, you know, because it's too hard to stop.

For most people. Not all people, but for most people.

Suzie: No, I agree with that. And I think it's.

I mean, if I were to. And I. We've talked about this again.

I would never be able to schedule my sex with a partner. It just wouldn't happen because it just, like, takes everything that is, like, literally schedule. Like, put on the calendar, like, talk about it before, and then, like, make sure it happens.

It's like, that's just so not how my brain works sexually. And so if that were the case, like, if that's where my life were to be going, 100%, I'm cheating.

Do you know what I mean? Because you're finally in a different zone where you kind of, like, let go a little bit with someone else. Yeah, it's gonna be exciting and, like.

Yeah, you're gonna want to, like, kind of get out of that scene of yours in your head. Not that I have children or anything like that. To, like, kind of be like, oh, no, I can't do that.

Or like, oh, no, we have to schedule. It's like a totally different situation. But I just. Yeah. I cannot see myself.

Mel: But no, I mean, it's. Yeah, it. Of course it's impulsive, because that's generally why it happens.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And for the most part, people don't plan this stuff.

Suzie: No, they don't. And that's what she says. She says one of the key things that. That people who cheat have in common is that they're very much focused on the moment.

The Thrill and the risk of what they're about to do. Okay. Which outweighs the consequences.

Mel: Yeah, I would say that is very true. I would say there are people who are just programmed like that, that they. They enjoy that. And then there are people who. They're not necessarily like that, but they get themselves, for whatever reason, into a situation where that happens for sure.

So I think there are people who want to do that all the time who get a kick out of the risk, out of the secrecy, out of the whatever, and are serial.

It's like their thing. Right, the serial thing. And again, even if you are like that, it's very difficult to stop being like. No, yeah, we'll stop being like anything.

Suzie: So the third one that we're talking about is that shame and guilt are common emotional responses to cheating, but so is justification.

Mel: Right, okay.

Suzie: And she says, inclined to have had affairs. She explains that while guilt and shame are common responses, not everyone is able to admit their actions were wrong.

Mel: Yeah, of course not.

Suzie: Right. Because they feel like they're justified in what they've done. Because maybe they're not getting sex at home, or maybe they're not getting attention, or maybe they're not getting anything they need from the relationship.

Mel: Well, also, if they are a, you know, feeling human being and not a psychopath, they are concerned about the. The partner, the main partner's feelings, and they feel guilty about that.

And it's a way to live with yourself.

Suzie: Yeah, absolutely.

Mel: Right. I mean, let's be frank. I mean, it's just a normal human reaction.

Suzie: Yeah. She says that people who have. Who have an affair usually want to move on quickly for their partner to let it go and forgive. Especially if they're expressing a commitment to their relationship and a willingness to start repairing it.

So it's like you're not giving the people, the cheaters are not giving their other partner the kind of.

Like, we have to sit in this kind of garbage.

Mel: Yeah, of course not.

Suzie: It's like, no, like, let's move on. Obviously they're gonna wanna do that, but, like, you can't. You have to let the other person feel what they're feeling. And most likely the feeling that they hate you if you need to repair it.

Mel: Like, yeah, so of course you wanna move on. Cause you're like, okay, done, dusted. That was a mistake. But you've done. You've not just done that to that person, you've done it to that, everyone.

And you've broken trust. Yeah, that's the biggest thing. You've broken trust. And You've broken, you know, to sort of be a little, like, cheesy, like your circle of intimacy, you know, like you've broken that thing.

If you have a relationship with somebody where it's a truly, you know, deep, meaningful relationship, your intimacy is supposed. Is the thing generally that you have together that the world doesn't get involved in.

Right. And if some. You're breaking that little circle that nobody else is involved with. And that's very hard to get your head around.

Suzie: Yeah. Then she says attachment style can determine whether a cheater will cheat again.

Mel: What's attachment style?

Suzie: Okay, so here's what she says. Particularly after an affair has happened, if somebody who has cheated doesn't learn about their attachment style, commit to understanding themselves and. And why they've behaved in that way in the past, then they're more vulnerable to doing it again.

She doesn't say what attachment style is, which is annoying because I feel like.

Mel: I don't know what that is.

Suzie: I don't know either how you attach.

Mel: To people, how you relate in relationships.

Suzie: I'm assuming that's what it is. And like, how exactly? Like how you're wanting to be in that relationship in a way, and like what you need from that relationship. And maybe the person isn't.

I feel like it's. So it says this is just personalpsychology.com.

there's four attachment styles, right? Okay. One is secure.

So that goes with confidence, self worth, accept support.

The next one is anxious. You have an anxious attachment style. So you're clingy, you're highly emotional, and you're seeking reassurance.

The next one is voidant. I feel like this is me.

You're distant, you're unemotional, and you avoid closeness.

Feel like it's kind of me, but it's also kind of not me. Like, I avoid certain situations because I don't want to feel stuff.

Mel: Right. Okay.

Suzie: And then the other one is disorganized. So it's intense. It's push and pull, and it's unpredictable.

So this person is saying that the attachment style. If you don't know what you're. If you don't know what you are, if you don't understand that either, whether you're secure, anxious, avoided, or disorganized,

then, like, you don't know why you're cheating. You don't know if you're gonna cheat again.

Mel: Yeah, sure.

Suzie: It's very difficult. And then. Yeah, go ahead. Is the more there is. There's one more.

Mel: Okay, what's the last one?

Suzie: So the last one is. But an affair doesn't always have to end the relationship.

Mel: Yeah, of course.

Suzie: But as she also says,

while the knee jerk reaction to infidelity may understandably be to end the relationship, studies have suggested that nearly 57% of couples stay together.

That's actually quite a bit more.

Mel: That doesn't surprise me.

Suzie: I just feel like for people who, I mean there's obviously situations where like because they have children, right. Because you have other things, you have investments together,

you're not going to let go of that. You're not going to get rid of that person because they maybe like had a drunk makeout or something like that or like maybe a drunk *******.

Like it's much harder to, I mean it's much harder to just get rid of them for like all the years you've been together and ruin everything you've built. Like.

Mel: Well, yeah. How do you, I mean, I think look at the end of the day relationships,

marriage is not easy. You have to work at it. And this term that I don't really like, as I've said before, but you have to invest in it. You have to do something.

You can't just kind of stand there and wait for the other person to do everything and just not make some effort yourself. I guess effort is the, an effort means, is, is about you looking at yourself, looking at your own behavior, looking at what you're doing, like it's all of the above and what you can do to make the relationship work better or whatever.

Right.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And you know, cheating is a part of that, is that,

you know, if you're invested in a relationship and you're in a long term relationship, a serious relationship, you, you know, of course you can go and cheat, probably the easiest thing in the world to do, but you don't.

Suzie: I know.

Mel: Because you've, because you care so much about it. Yeah. You've got to put the effort in and, but does, do situations happen, do things happen where people cheat? I, you know, somebody gets drunk or they're away on a business trip or blah, blah, blah, blah.

Suzie: That'd be the most horrible thing where you're like, you find out that they've cheated on a business trip and then you, every time that they would go on vacation or if it's a trip, you think they're going to cheat again.

Mel: I understand and I know people in that situation, it's, it's really, really hard.

Suzie: Because most likely they are going to cheat again. Right.

Mel: Because the thing is, obviously if they've cheated, unless they're sort of a serial or. Or what's a female serial.

Yeah, like that, you know that you're not a bad person. Something's happened that would have been better if you didn't do it. But the point is, is if you so easily allowed yourself to be taken by the moment.

Yeah. The likelihood is going to happen again is. Is my point. Right.

Suzie: Very high.

Mel: Because they're saying that, that. Well, this doctor was saying it's impulsive,

that it's impulse. It's impulse. Like I. You're in a situation that's so va va vom and sexy that you cannot say no. Stay like that.

Suzie: I do like that.

Mel: So the likelihood. If you can't say no, how are you going to say no the next time?

Suzie: Well, yeah, you can't.

Mel: And it's.

Suzie: Again, there's always gonna be hot people around 100%.

Mel: And if you work or you're in a situation where that can happen or blah blah, blah. Or again, you can be attracted to somebody else. Even if you're with somebody and you love them.

I mean, of course that happens. It happens all the time. But I think the thing about cheating, the thing is that when people go off and kind of they doing this whole thing in secret and the other person thinks everything's.

Suzie: Yeah, righty tighty.

Mel: Yeah, that's. And you know, people plan exits and all this sort of stuff, it's very difficult.

Suzie: It's hard though because it's like you don't want to hurt the person. And then it's like, well, how do I do this? Where the least amount of people are hurt because the deed is done 100%.

Do you know what I mean? The best thing to do is not have the deed done, but the deed is done. So what do you do?

Mel: Look, and there are different. Right, look, I think there are different scenarios of cheating. So if you cheat and your marriage really or your relationship has been going not in the greatest way, it's not.

You don't have the greatest connection anymore. And perhaps one of you is perhaps not admitting that to themselves.

And then cheating is gonna happen. It is gonna happen in those situations. And the person who has been cheated on is very difficult, but they really have to kind of do a lot of like in turn, like a lot of thinking about, well, actually did we get to this point?

This happened? Blah, blah, blah. Whereas there are many, many relationships where the people are just totally side. Like what you call that.

Suzie: Yes, sideswiped, but not sideswiped.

Mel: Can't think today.

Suzie: Why can't we think today, are we okay?

Mel: We're not okay. But you're from left. You know, something comes at you like. Like you think your life is totally fine.

Suzie: Yeah. Yeah.

Mel: And then this thing happens. You're like, well, where did that. How did that happen? What happened? Huh? Like, I thought I was. We were happy.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Those kind of scenarios. And does that happen because you get very involved in your life and you don't stop to think about, well, maybe everything isn't fine or whatever it is.

Yeah, possibly.

But for the most part, cheating happens because. Yeah. Because of an impulse situation.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: But something is probably fundamentally wrong with the relationship. Wrong off, whatever.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Might be temporarily wrong. It might not be the whole span of the relationships where people can recover. So they do say that, you know, if you. If. I mean, if you're able to recover, like I said, I don't.

I'd find it very difficult that maybe it highlights what's gone wrong or where you can fix it. But you're going to have to work incredibly hard, and then the person who's cheated is gonna have to take it, like, in the sense that, you know, they want to move on,

but the other person can't move on. And you're gonna just have to go at the pace that your partner wants to go at.

Suzie: I mean. Yeah, here's. Here's my two cents on it. It's like, I really do not think that couples can actually make the.

Mel: Make it out, make it, make it.

Suzie: Work, make it work after, because truly the trust is gone. So the fact that you have to rebuild that trust,

it's, like, likely impossible to actually rebuild it. Like, whether you keep the relationship because you have to for children or investments or whatever you have to do,

it's not going to be the same afterwards. And whether you want to just kind of accept it and maybe, like, open up the relationship, because the other person is most likely going to do it again.

And you have to be okay with that. You're not. Have to be. But, like, most likely it's. It's just the reality of it. Or you break it off because you're like, well, I don't want to do this and I deserve better.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: So I just. I really. I really don't think you can have a great relationship after this has happened unless it opens something up. As in, like, you know, you now have an amazing sex life.

Because it's like, you know, you're bringing all these things in where it's like you didn't realize you needed it. But most. Most likely it's not gonna help. It's mostly just gonna hurt and you're gonna.

Mel: Oh, my God. Yeah.

Suzie: And you're staying with it just for need, a need to know.

Mel: It's very difficult for it to work because it's the trust thing.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: If you're with somebody and with somebody for a long period of time, you're past that initial kind of thing. You have to. Like I said, you have to put effort in.

You have to work at it. So if the other person isn't going to do the frigging bare minimum and, you know, be trustworthy, I mean, it's pretty hard, isn't it?

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And like you said, like, most of us spend large periods of the day. If you're working or somebody's at work, somebody's at home, whatever it is apart, every time somebody's going somewhere, you're going to be like, well, who?

What are you doing? Who's saying, where are you going? Blah, blah. That's not a life, is it? But,

you know,

do a lot of people think about cheating? Do a lot of people cheat? Yes, I think they do. I think a lot of people do. Yeah. Because life is difficult.

For the large part, it's boring. Yeah. And I think it's interesting. Like, I see a lot of, you know, like, younger people, and they're sort of going into the. The workforce.

They're sort of in their early 20s, and I think they think, oh, life is gonna. I don't want to be an adult.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: You know, even I think about when my daughter's 20, like, oh, all I want to do is be an adult.

Suzie: That was me when I was, like, so young. I was like, I can't wait.

Mel: I'm an adult. Yeah. And you go into the world, you're like, this sucks.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Because, oh, my God. All of a sudden, I got to pay my bills.

Suzie: Oh, yeah.

Mel: That sucks.

Suzie: I mean, that's the worst part about it.

Mel: Yeah. I've got to go to work. For the most part of us, that's incredibly boring.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And even if you like your job, at least 65% of it's boring. And you're just like, is this it?

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And that is the majority of people. Is this it? Like, oh, my God. And it's like, that can build up into this big, like, doom.

Suzie: Yeah. And that doom and gloom thing. And then you want to keep, like, spicing it up somehow.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And it's like, if that doesn't happen with your partner.

Mel: Yeah. And that takes a lot of effort and work. You Know, it's not, you know, and we. And most of us only have so much energy and time in the day.

There are only so many hours in the day, Susie.

Suzie: I know.

Mel: And, you know, that's. That's the problem with it, because when you're in the beginning of a relationship almost, you shut the world out and you shut all the problems and all the sort of barriers to doing things, don't you.

You just focus. You're zoned in on this thing. And then, of course, as you progress, then life comes in and everyone has work commitments, family,

whatever. And then your time with each other sort of shrinks in a sense.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And then the mundane reality of life comes in, and most people find that very difficult. They hate it.

Suzie: I mean, because. I mean, that's. Yeah, that's how I feel. I'm like, **** if I. You really have to. It's like mind over matter. You have to find the joys in life.

If you. You know what I mean? Like, you. If you can't spice it up every day because you live in the middle of nowhere, what are you gonna do? Right?

Like, you have to find the little things in life that make you happy. It can't always be exciting and joyous and all these things. But if you don't find the small things to make you happy, then, like, you've.

You really need. Like, you really don't have a lot.

Mel: You. You really have to find the joy in the small things. And I'd also say if you find the right partner,

it doesn't have to be like, you know, this amazing sort of thing out of a movie all the time. There's no. But it can just.

Suzie: Exactly.

Mel: Just try and. Yeah, it's fun to be with that person. You know, you enjoy being with that person and you enjoy that person's company. But I do recognize that's very difficult.

Suzie: To find to find that person.

Mel: And I get that.

Suzie: I know a lot of great relationships, though, that, like, just enjoy each other's company and, like,

they don't want anything else, like you and Max, but other, you know, younger people who just, like, love being together and they seem like they're super happy and they trust each other, and I don't think either of them have cheated, you know, and it's like, no, this exists.

It's just. You have to be patient and not.

Mel: It exists.

Suzie: Stop pressure on it so much and just let it kind of happen 100%.

Mel: I mean, you can't force it. You don't know who you're gonna meet. And when you're gonna meet somebody and.

Suzie: Hopefully they don't cheat.

Mel: And I really hope they don't cheat because that really sucks.

Suzie: It sucks. But it happens, guys.

Mel: It happens.

Suzie: It happens. And if you are the cheater or that's been happening to you, then it's okay. You're gonna figure it out and you're gonna find someone better or you're gonna make it work.

If it's the right person or the cheatie.

Mel: The cheating cheat.

Suzie: The cheatie or the cheetah.

Mel: Yes, exactly. It is. It is. It is scary. And obviously it happens very easily.

Suzie: Yeah. Sorry, guys.

Mel: It's not good.

Suzie: But maybe if you guys have had a cheater, have you guys been cheated on or maybe you've cheated on that person?

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Yikes.

We've experienced in it, guys. Okay. We know people, you know, we. We've done some dirt.

You know, what was that?

Mel and I are not innocent. You know, like, we have been through it.

And so if you guys have any. An experience with this, we'd love to know.

Mel: We would. Yeah. And just tell us. And especially if you're in a relationship where somebody did cheat and you've gone on and it's now a great relationship.

Suzie: Yeah. How have you made it work?

Mel: How have you done that? What? How did you do it? How did you get over?

Suzie: How did you let go?

Mel: Yeah. How do you trust the person?

Suzie: Crazy.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Okay, guys, well, you want to share my truth.com to figure that out? And you guys can go to our share my truth pod on the socials. You guys can DM us there your stories.

We'd love to hear from you.

Mel: We would. Send them in.

Suzie: Love you guys.

Mel: See you soon. Bye.

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