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Speaker B: Hello, darling.

Speaker A: How are you?

Speaker B: Fabulous. Absolutely fabulous.

Speaker A: Mel and I have been apart, we have for quite some time.

Speaker B: It's distressing.

Speaker A: It truly is.

Speaker B: We have.

Speaker A: We just have like phone and FaceTime and it's not the same.

Speaker B: It isn't, is it?

Speaker A: It's really not. And yes, yes.

Speaker B: And then we see each other and then we just have to talk.

Speaker A: Yeah. We don't shut the up after release. I know.

Speaker B: It's all this funny pent up chatting.

Speaker A: I know. And then, and then we're constantly like, save it for the pod. But we can't.

Speaker B: I know. And then we go, oh, and I didn't talk about.

Speaker A: Exactly.

Speaker B: Anyway, yeah.

Speaker A: Well, we're so happy and excited to talk to you guys today about some stuff.

Some things have been going on in the media. I feel like we've seen some things on TikTok and obviously, like there's new shows coming out. Like, I feel like docu series are huge right now.

Right.

And whether they're like,

what is it called? Like, whether there's people playing, portraying these real people or it's like the real docu series.

So I recently watched. I know, Mel, you're in the middle of it. Like the apple cider vinegar girls. Yes.

Such a good show. If you guys have not watched apple cider vinegar on Netflix with Bell, it's like a Bell. Belle Gibson and their whole journey, you guys go watch it.

It's so crazy and wild. Like watching you have to like take breaks because it's insane. And like what this woman does to gain fame and all of these other things.

Gain money. Gain fame by lying to the world. Literally.

Literally everyone crazy. And then, you know, there's this other girl called Blondie Blue. We've Done another episode about her and.

Speaker B: This other Lily Phillips.

Speaker A: Lily Phillips.

Speaker B: Only fans stars.

Speaker A: Yeah, the onlyfin stars. And the way that these women make money. We're not judging about how they're making the money. Of course not.

Thank God we're in a free country and you can do whatever you want, but there's.

Is there limits and should there be limits of like, how you create your stardom and attention and like, you know, what does that look like even? And why are we so obsessed with these people when they're not really good for us?

I guess you could say.

Speaker B: Yeah. I think it's about the boundaries. Yeah. Cause I talk about this all the time. I guess because I'm older than you and what I know, it's shocking.

Speaker A: I know it is.

Speaker B: Yeah.

No, that, you know, obviously I didn't grow up when you're 52, 50 or late 40s, 50s, you didn't grow up. A, with the Internet, B, with social media and this constant barrage of stuff.

And I, you know, work in digital marketing. That's my world. So I'm constantly looking at stuff, but obviously I didn't when I was younger. And it's just this constant, like at you of stuff.

And the level of misinformation is unbelievable. Yeah.

Speaker A: Because people don't do their own research. They don't want to do their own research. They want to believe what they believe. Like that's pretty much what this is 100%.

Speaker B: They just go on to tick tock and search up and it's fine if you're.

Speaker A: And then they call it research.

Speaker B: Yeah. And it's fine if like I, I often, if I'm like traveling somewhere for pleasure, for fun, I actually do go on TikTok and say, you know, look at like the nice hotels or.

Speaker A: Totally.

Speaker B: Because that's you quite helpful. But, you know, it's not serious. I'm not going to look. Which political party am I voting for? You know, the solution to whatever. Something really serious in my life.

I'm not gonna take TikTok's word. I mean, are you mad?

But people do and they don't look at a serious source and they don't check it and back it. So I guess all these people can just say the most outrageous, ridiculous, bullshit things and people go, oh, really?

And they get fed into it and then that's how they get people's attention. I mean, it's clickbait, you know, clickbait. And it, I think it's just, I think what we're all disturb.

Disturbed by is the Level like the,

where people will go, like just, will it ever end? And when we live in this world of all this crazy political **** going on as well, it's like, oh my God.

Even that isn't, even that isn't a. There's nothing, no area in your life where it's not like ******* crazy. Like everyone's lying about everything.

Speaker A: It is crazy to think about that. People look at like the truth in a completely different way now. Right? Because you're like, well, I saw this and this is, this is what I believe to be true.

And it's like, well, actually this person just said this thing. It doesn't mean that it is true.

Speaker B: Yeah, it's not the facts.

Speaker A: It's not the facts.

Speaker B: And nobody gives a **** about facts.

Speaker A: No, no one gives a **** about facts anymore.

Speaker B: And you could say anything about anything and it doesn't matter what it is. Everyone has an opinion and everyone can.

Speaker A: Just be like, oh, it's fake news. Yeah, how do you know?

Speaker B: And it's just kind of amazing. And, and that's, you know, so we can look at these people like Belle Gibson and she was what the sort of 2012, 2013. That kind of.

Speaker A: So it's really amazing because I feel.

Speaker B: Like it's like a, it's a while ago, isn't it?

Speaker A: Oh yeah. It's like 2015. I think she got really famous. 2015. So this is like right when apps were starting to get really big, right? Wellness type, wellness type of apps.

And this is right when like the, the smart watches were coming out. So like Apple watches and stuff like that. And so her app was number one and she all did, she did all this and she made so much money off people in the wellness community because she faked having cancer.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: And when you watch, because I've watched now the real docu series on like her and then I've watched the portrayal version and when you watch this you're like, how?

And you kind of understand because no one researches who they're following. Why, why are you checking? You kind of take people's word for it because you have no other reason to not.

But when someone's trying to sell you something, and this is like the huge horrible part of that is because she was trying to sell people who actually had cancer these recipes saying that she was curing her own cancer because of, she was drinking green juices and she was doing enemas and she was making all these really great recipes and she was all self taught and she didn't want western medicine and like,

she is just kind of like a part of this revolution that we're seeing today of people not really trusting Western medicine, which I totally understand why we don't fully. Or why you should be somewhat skeptical.

Skeptical about some, like some kind of Western medicine.

But you'd be skeptical. You research and then whatever. You don't just like, be like, oh, **** chemo. I'm gonna hear this myself.

Speaker B: It's insane. I think it's, I mean, I, I watching it and I don't remember her. Like, did you follow her app? Did you have.

Speaker A: I think it was like, before I was like, even a part of, like anything about wellness. It like was right at the start of Instagram. That's why it was like kind of a huge thing.

Speaker B: Yeah. And she's Australian, so I assume it was popular outside of Australia. I know it was. Yeah. At the beginning of Instagram, she was.

Speaker A: Like in Apple headquarters doing. Because her app was number one in the world. So she was literally. She went to Silicon Valley, she did all this stuff with all these influencers.

Speaker B: Yeah. And then she moves to the States or something, doesn't.

Speaker A: Something like that. Yeah.

Speaker B: And the thing that is terrifying about it is, you know, this is really serious. You know, she has brain cancer, I believe, or she tells her,

and nobody,

nobody checks until obviously these investigative journalists get involved and one of the journalists wives is very ill. And it's just. Yeah. And it's absolutely terrifying that you know people who are very, very ill who are following this person because it's hope.

She's selling hope, but it's false hope.

Speaker A: Exactly.

Speaker B: And, you know, I, you know, especially when you get to my age, I know a lot of people who've had cancer, have cancer, died of cancer, relatives, friends, currently, you know,

have cancer. And it's so prevalent and it is not something you can **** about with.

Speaker A: Right. So everyone knows someone who has had.

Speaker B: Or has cancer 100% at whatever age. I mean, I know my kids who know kids who've had cancer,

you know, even when I was younger, like leukemia. And those kind of forms of. That are for when you're younger. Right. You know, it's awful, just awful. And to sell the idea that you can cure it because you've had it, which you haven't had it by drinking and eating something,

is just completely bananas.

Obviously, it's good to have a good diet.

Speaker A: Well, exactly. If you're sick. Yeah.

Speaker B: You wanna eat unhealthy, healthy things. Well, however you are, you should eat well. And obviously that's gonna have an impact on you. But you know, what's the other.

Because she mimics. Belle Gibson mimics this other influencer who was at that time who actually did have cancer in her arm. And she didn't. She decided to.

Speaker A: That's what it was in the portrayal.

Speaker B: And she dies.

Speaker A: And she dies because you cannot just be taking green juices and then being on a juice diet and assuming that that is going to cure you of something that is so horrible.

Speaker B: So aggressive. So aggressive.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: And I think. I mean, obviously it's just so distasteful and it's so gross. And I think obviously the thing about Belle Gibson is she's got some. I mean, is she currently in prison somewh.

Speaker A: No, I don't think she's actually in prison. I think she's just literally living her life. She never got. I think she had to pay a big fine. But then I'm also.

I don't. I can't remember, but I don't know if she actually ever paid it.

Speaker B: Well, when they're that. That kind of big, they. They kind of. You best basically can't have a business. Like it's probably the FTC or whoever it is and somebody in the uk, in the us Sorry, is there are all sorts of fines and, you know, they repossess your house and all this stuff.

And. Yeah, I don't think she ever got, um. It's the, you know,

the level of deception. But I think with her, obviously there's so much mental health stuff. I mean, she's completely mad and she. And then she came from this odd background and it transpires she'd been lying for a long time and perhaps lying.

Cause she came from this background where she wasn't very happy. The single mother was odd and a drunk. Right. Or who drank too much.

Speaker A: No, she. It was so she.

Speaker B: Her mother drank too much, her mother.

Speaker A: But she had a stepdad or something like that.

Speaker B: Yeah. But it's not like it's either that I. I mean, I couldn't really gauge is it. Was her mother that bad or was she just,

you know, grew up into a family that she wished she'd been in, grown up into a better life.

Speaker A: It's kind of a weird thing, right? Because like, obviously we're never gonna be able to tell whether her mother was the pro was the problem. Right.

Speaker B: But it created a fantasy world.

Speaker A: She created a fantasy world and then obviously her brother didn't even know about it. Her. Her stepdad or her father like never knew about it. And her mother obviously was like what are you talking about?

Like, you're not sick. And then apparently doing this since, like, she was a teenager, like, she was faking illnesses and, like, she was doing all this stuff, and she was, like, getting research from guys who, like, were actually having cancer and, like, all of the other weird stuff.

So it's just, like, this level of deception, and it's truly just for attention. Like, this is why people do this stuff.

Speaker B: Oh, yeah.

Speaker A: And so it's the same with Bonnie Blue, right, where she is kind of on a different level, where it's like, she's not really decepting people and, like, selling a lie because she is literally having sex and you're seeing it.

Right? But you.

Mel hates that.

Speaker B: It's just. Yeah, but.

Speaker A: Yeah, it's not, like deception, but it's a different way of, like, selling yourself for attention.

Speaker B: You know, in. Bonnie blows the fence. And I find it hard that I'm saying these words is that she is selling a service on OnlyFans.

Whatever you're watching, you know, her having sex with lots of different people. And her kind of teaser videos where she kind of says, oh, you know, I'm traveling to Australia,

you know, gonna screw the whole fire brigade. And where, like, she does stuff like that. Or I'm in the airport and I'm having sex with all the. She does all these kind of promotional things at the end of the day.

Yeah, it's ****. She's selling adult entertainment. She's driving them to, like, you know, the full.

You know, she's teasing them. I mean, that's what she's doing. But I think. And that I don't have an issue with. I mean, I'm not interested in her product, but there are millions of men who are.

And, you know, she's selling them something. They're paying. It's a transaction. Fine, Whatever. Fine. And, you know, the fact that she says, oh, you know, and, hey, boys, you could be next and all that.

Who cares? I mean, that is. She's selling to that audience. She's marketing her product. That's fine. I think what everyone has the problem with is, like, the marathon kind of sex sessions.

And she. Like, we've talked about this in a previous episode, like, I've slept with a thousand men in 24 hours. Which obviously is pretty repulsive. And, you know, I. Oh, I slept with the dad and the son and all this kind of stuff.

And then she says some very weird things like, oh, I sleep with guys who are barely legal. Which all that sort of stuff is trigger. It's clickbait. It's meant to incense people to get them annoyed.

You get so annoyed, you click on it. You have to watch it in the whole cycle of links. I mean, they're not stupid. I think the latest thing she did was she said she was pregnant and she's British.

And so this was all. We have these lovely tabloids in the uk, we're famous for it.

And she was in all the tabloids. And then the lovely dailymail.com,

you know, the other. The normal stuff that she used to do, like sort of saying, I'm gonna sleep with this whole football team or whatever. She says, okay, fine, her audience is men.

That's what they wanna hear.

They're into that drives them to the onlyfans, whatever. But it's this latest stuff where she talks about,

you know, and this has been going on, obviously for months,

you know, sleeping with a thousand men. And like I said, the tabloids in the UK really latched onto it. And the latest thing was her telling everyone, like out of the blue, I'm pregnant from this stunt.

Speaker A: But she doesn't actually say she's pregnant.

Speaker B: No, she worded it. Cause, you know, she's not dumb. She's got some legal team. And she worded it in such a way. And it was on. I think I first saw it on the amazingly amazing resource thedailymail.com and she said she was pregnant.

Or maybe she didn't say.

Speaker A: She said she was just getting cravings or something.

Speaker B: She said something and she intimated that it was one of the thousand. Cause I think she's only.

I don't know. I really don't know that much about her. It sounds like I do, but one of the stunt where she slept with a thousand men in 24 hours, which I still find hard to wrap my head around how that is even possible.

But anyway, go back to our other episode and listen to that. But she basically intimates that she's pregnant from one of these thousand men. So of course the first thing you'll mind is like, oh my God, did she not.

Was this unprotected? So your whole, like, spiraling.

And then she says, I'm gonna stream a live birth. She doesn't say her live birth, which I didn't think about until afterwards. She says, a live birth. And then you're like, oh, my God.

Speaker A: What else would it be?

Speaker B: So that's what you think and you listen to it. And then everyone just went crazy and they're like, is she really pregnant? And then her, like, Was her friend, is now her nemesis.

Lily Phillips came out and said she was also pregnant, but she's actually pregnant.

Speaker A: Because we saw a picture of her being pregnant, didn't we?

Speaker B: Is she. Was that AI generated? Oh, my God. I think it's. It's. Yeah. I don't think she is because then you're seeing her on all these pods and things and she.

She doesn't look very pregnant.

No. And.

And then they're sort of doing. Then they've got this whole PR war going on about the fact that they're friends and now they're enemies. And now the PR war, which is obviously completely stage managed.

Speaker A: Right.

Speaker B: Is about that they're both pregnant at the same time and blah, blah, blah. And then they let this for a sort of, you know, fair amount of time. It's probably like a week, 10 days.

And then I see this thing the other day. Oh, no, no, I never said I was pregnant. Bonnie Blue said, I never said I was pregnant. I said I was live streaming a birth.

I didn't say it was my birth.

And then obviously it's genius because everyone's in a gross way, everyone's got like, fascinated by this in a really kind of weird way. Yeah, it's a weird interest.

Speaker A: Well, it's also just because you're like,

for like my. One of my first thoughts is like, what the **** about the child that's being born? Is no one worried about their privacy? Like, what are we doing here?

Like, what is happening? What's going on?

Speaker B: Morals and ethics. Like, because you have this sort of odd interest that is just contrary to the way you think. You think.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: And it is. What she's doing is very clickbaity. But then it brings up all these thoughts, is like, is there no line? I mean, what's she gonna say next? You know?

And like, what is she.

Speaker A: It's not like you can say whatever the you want to say, but like, what are you gonna. You're actually gonna live stream live birth? Like, what is wrong with you?

Speaker B: And whose baby is this? And why do we want to watch this?

Speaker A: And like, is it weird? Because everything she does is sexual. Not a problem with that. But, but like, but like,

why is this birth. Why are you putting this on? Like, it's a possible that this is gonna be something sexual. Like, that's what's scary because there's a literal child involved.

This is what I'm afraid of, right? Like, it's just like there is a line that should not be crossed. And she's crossing it oh, my God.

Speaker B: It's completely going backwards and forwards across.

Speaker A: This line for attention. For no reason but attention.

Speaker B: Well, yeah. And it's driving massive amounts of traffic.

Speaker A: As we are speaking about her right.

Speaker B: Now,

because we're disgusted, intrigued, curious, all of these weird things.

And it's driving people to her onlyfans account. So it's working. Yeah, it's just, I think, the point we're making, and she's very different from Belle Gibson because technically, she's not lying, that she told her she knows how.

Speaker A: To go around the truth and also, like, decept and tease and do all these, like, very PR. Stunty things. Yeah, just, like, fair. That's your entire, you know, life. And, like, that's how you make your money.

So, like, fine. Belle Gibson, on the other hand, obviously, she literally decepted people. And she, you know, she had a cookbook. She had all these things. And, like, everything was on the basis that she had an illness, an extremely serious illness.

And, like, all of these doctors are, like, trying to ******* warn people that you can't cure it with, you know, natural foods. Unfortunately, you have to go through chemical treatment.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: And that's so hard. Obviously, it's a hard enough thing to hear that you have cancer. It's even harder when someone's, like, telling you a lie about a treatment. Part of it.

So. Yeah. And, oh, my God, watching Phil Gibson's interview on 60 Minutes,

it's so hard to watch. It is so hard to watch because she's lying about. She lies about her age. She doesn't know how to tell the truth about anything. And that's.

I mean, so we were talking about a bit about Mel Gibson's mom, how she's potentially also a weird liar. And, like, you know, whatever. We don't really. We don't. She's not in the news.

We don't really know about her.

But on the other hand, Bonnie Blue's mom is her manager and her dad.

Speaker B: Yeah, her mom and dad are like her management.

Speaker A: Her dad, too.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: So, yeah, the mom. So he. So the dad is also the manager.

Speaker B: Well, they're involved in her management or her marketing or whatever he does. I don't know, but I just saw something the other day on, like, a mainstream British program, and they were just.

That's what they did. They're like, your parents are in your. She's like. They're. They're part of. They're my team. And they were just like.

Speaker A: There's something about being, like,

letting your child make their own decisions about business. And all this stuff and also helping them in any way possible. They're your child. But this is a very different kind of a business.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Your daughter is selling her body. And not that there's anything wrong with that, but you are helping the process of her sleeping with a thousand men.

Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I think that's the thing is all these bounty makes all these lives millions. I mean, it's not like, you know,

your daughter's a model,

for example, and, you know, maybe she's a lingerie model or something like that, and you help her with bookings and manage her money and stuff like that. To me, that's vastly different to she's a **** star.

Even actually a **** star. I'd be like, okay, that's a job. But this is like, you don't just do films. You do,

like, you interact with the public in the most possibly repulsive way possible. Like, this isn't. This isn't. She doesn't go on film sets.

Speaker A: Why would you be so worried? Like, if I was her mother, which I'm not, and I don't think I'll ever have children, but, you know, like, I would be so concerned about her security because she is so embedded into the public wherever she lives, and people do know her and they know her face.

And if she doesn't have proper security, there is the potential of her being grabbed and stuff because she is allowing that kind of idea about herself that you are allowed to just grab her, you are allowed to just **** her.

Like, you are allowed to do all these things with her.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: And even if she doesn't want you to, because she's going to go to the grocery store. Like, it's so. It's a crazy thing.

Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, to me, I think about,

you know, she has these things where it's a thousand hundred men, whatever it is, is, you know,

one. You know, some men can be very forceful and very aggressive. Yeah. And very physic. You know, they're physically much stronger than you. And what can they do to you?

Like, be, you know, **** it, you know, like, thrust too hard, let's put it that way. You know, they could be more violent than the next man in the queue of 100.

Speaker A: Well, she said to them before that, before all these guys came on to her, whatever you want to call it,

she said that you can **** me however you want. You can slap me. You can do. You can literally do anything. You can literally do anything. So, like, that's the idea that you're putting out for yourself.

So like, that's what's. That's what's just crazy to me about, you know, your parents are very involved. Yeah, right.

Speaker B: Like, yeah.

Speaker A: I would just be so concerned. I would have to get the highest level of security on my daughter. If I was, like, okay with her doing this and me being involved.

Speaker B: Like, I'd be terrified. Like I said, if your daughter or son was in the **** industry,

their films is highly regulated. It's on a set. You know, it may not be what you dreamt of them doing, but if that's what they're gonna do, they're gonna do it.

But that's a professional environment. It may be adult entertainment, but it's managed and regulated. And everyone's just imagine your parents watching. And they're actors, right? They're actors. They're not people.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: They're being paid to do this, you know?

Speaker A: Absolutely.

Speaker B: And, you know, even only fans,

there are a lot of people who are couples who do it together or if you're doing it on your own or whatever, but you're not doing it with all these other people who are the public.

And you and I have talked about this. The public can be pretty gross.

I mean, like, you know, we've laughed about this. But you don't go and sit on a toilet seat. Well, I don't. Why don't you have sex with a thousand men?

Even with a condom, they're touching you. They could smell.

Speaker A: Their sticks are also in your mouth and your face and all that. Exactly.

Speaker B: Actually, that's a point. Does she? I don't know. I haven't really.

We're thinking about it too much. It's just. So the point is, like,

it's not her sort of regular teasing or kind of ***** y way that she advertises her stuff. It's the boundaries that she's crossing. She's not lying. It's just. It's disturbing us because she's going into things that shouldn't be part of sex.

And we're bothered by that.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: And it's just. I think it's just the totally slightly seedy nature of it. And people have so many problems with **** anyway, so they think of it as seedy and gross and all this stuff.

And you're kind of proving that point to everyone, which is part of the problem. And the Belle Gibson thing is just the a. The fact that she lied. I mean, why did Belle Gibson.

Maybe she does still live in this fantasy world. Is it, you know, does she have mental health issues that she lives in this World. She justifies it to herself. Blah, blah.

Yes, probably.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: The thing that's the worst about it is that everyone was making money out of Belle Gibson. Right. So nobody ****** checked anything.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Until something kind of happened. Or still somebody went, hang on.

Speaker A: And people. When people have fans. Yeah, Right. Like, we see this with, like, you know, people like Taylor Swift or Blake Lively, like, all these other women who are having, you know, they always have, like, you know, media on them right now.

Especially with Blake Lively.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: But, like, it's crazy, but, like, with, you know, you could see that her Bell Gibson's fans are so for her.

They're so invested in her, whether with their money or just their, you know, comments or whatever. And they've been following her for years. They're like, are you kidding? Of course.

Of course she's sick. How dare you come after a poor sick woman.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: After, you know, she's done all this stuff and blah, blah, blah. I believe her. I love her. Like, and then that fall of fame is crazy. And people love watching a fall.

Speaker B: Of course we do.

Speaker A: Which is so horrible to build people.

Speaker B: Up, which is what we'll see with.

Speaker A: Blake Lively a little bit.

Speaker B: Oh, absolutely crazy.

Speaker A: And what happened to Taylor Swift kind of a while ago with, like, the whole Kim Kardashian thing. Right. Like, it's so obviously Taylor's come back from that and her fans are, like, stronger than ever.

But we're seeing this whole thing with, like, Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, like, that feud, which is completely PR fueled.

And we're so obsessed with stuff like that. And people are. Women who used to be Blake Lively fans are so like, oh, I can't believe this horrible person. She's lying.

She's super ******. She's like all of these things. And also, it kind of hurts her husband, Ryan Reynolds. Do we not.

Speaker B: I think he. Yeah, I think he's been massively damaged by it. But I think what we like about it is the fact that they had this unbelievably privileged, uber wealthy, golden couple life.

And you're like, **** them. They fell from grace. And it makes you feel good because you're not them. And I think that's a very kind of disturbing part of human nature.

And I think we're like that,

you know, and it's. People have got so invested in this.

Speaker A: Yeah. Honestly, I haven't followed it a huge amount because I was never, like, a huge Blake Lively fan. Like, I never watched Gossip Girl. Like, I never really. Stuff. And it's gotten so boring.

And, like, The PR people involved are so gross and like doing this stuff. And it's also like all these things with like sexual assault. I'm like, I can't keep up with whatever's happening.

But yeah, I mean, with these, with these two women who are literally just making their money off attention and our in shock, right? The shock value. Cancer is a shock value.

Sex is a shock value like that. These are all things that we're so concerned about. We wanna know everything about it.

It's just, it's gross when you're trying to make money off of people's kind of misery.

Speaker B: I mean, I think the thing particularly about Mel Gibson, what is so disturbing is that when somebody says the word cancer, if you've ever had that in your family or friends, it's a horrible.

I mean, you know, thank God. My worst touching word. I've never had, you know, any issues with that myself. But I can't imagine. I know friends who've gone through it, going through it.

To be sitting in a doctor's waiting room and that to be. It's the worst possible thing health wise that somebody can say to you. It's a horrible word.

Fear, dread, terrifying. I mean, everything, your whole world turns upside down. So you don't possibly imagine that somebody could possibly lie about such a heinous thing. How could you lie about that?

You don't even. Doesn't even cross your mind that they're lying. I mean, it's one thing to say, oh, I miss work, so I've got the flu. But people don't lie about having cancer.

I mean, there's something seriously ****** up with your mind if you are so. We don't even possibly go to that. We're so naive. And then I think because Belle Gibson was sort of at the beginning of Instagram and she got famous.

Cause she was right at the beginning. You know, like you said, I think people get very invested and they're so into. And they follow this person and if they actually admit that, know she's a liar and whatever, then they have to question everything they think about everything.

And you don't wanna do that. And I also. It makes you think, oh my God, I've invested, I've watched hours of this person, I've bought the books, I've cooked the recipes.

And that was just all stupid.

Speaker A: And it makes you feel gross.

Speaker B: It makes you feel gross, stupid and everything else. And again, I think it's this thing of the world that we live in. I think particularly in the west, we assume nobody's Lying.

Everyone's lying all the time. They're just doing it, pretending they're not lying and that. Nobody checked. Nobody at any point until it got very, very serious checked. I mean,

did the people who published her book check?

Speaker A: No, they didn't.

Speaker B: Of course they didn't, because they took our word for it, which is just ******* crazy.

You know, these publishing houses have armies of lawyers. You know, I know that my husband's had a book written about him, and he's a lawyer, and all the lawyers that had to check that it was insane.

Checking that what he was saying was the truth.

And he was talking about, you know, his being a tobacco lawyer. And you're like, holy ****. She's talking about cancer, tobacco cancer. But she's talking about something really serious that could kill people.

Like, she could by her saying, oh, no, I don't have chemo. Don't do that. Go and drink a smoothie. Yeah, you're killing people.

Speaker A: Exactly.

Speaker B: You are killing people.

Speaker A: I don't even want to know the lawsuits she possibly had to.

Speaker B: Yeah. And we don't know the extent of the amount of people who either didn't have treatment, delayed treatment, or any of the above is horrendous. There's gonna be thousands and thousands.

I mean, she would have millions of followers, so God knows what the number is. And I think that we are all aware that we live in this world where everyone lies, but we're still naive about it.

And I think that's the thing, to me, that is, like, shocking. Like, we know everyone lies. All the ****** leaders of the Western world lie. Why are we thinking that somebody like her is not gonna.

Why do we think that she's not gonna lie about something so huge?

I don't know why we do that. Because we're dumb. We're dumb.

We're dumb. We're dumb. And there's got to be at some point. I think that's our feeling in our head, as if you think you're sort of a remotely moral, ethical person.

You think there's gotta be a line at some point.

Speaker A: You'd hope so.

Speaker B: And it worries you. I have kids. It worries me. It's like. I'm like, holy ****. I mean, my kids are both pretty smart, and they don't believe any. They're just like, well, this is all bullshit, Mom.

I look at TikTok, but it's ****.

Speaker A: But I bet their friends believe a lot of it.

Speaker B: Yeah, of course. I mean, just because there's a TikTok about everything.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: And, you know, I'M not gonna go after TikTok. It's Instagram, it's everything. Yeah, right. No matter what it is, it's like.

Speaker A: TikTok is just the new Shining thing. It's gonna be something else.

Speaker B: Yeah. It's just the. For their generation, a palatable way of receiving information. Right. And you know, and actually just going back to this Blake Lively thing, you know what I know about it and don't come after me because I haven't really followed it because like I said, it really is getting a bit boring is.

I think the whole point about that is that this woman went after Justin Baldoni and just because of who she is and who her husband is, just tried to literally crush him and didn't expect.

This is my understanding. So correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker A: I honestly have. Yeah.

Speaker B: No idea.

Speaker A: There's too much.

Speaker B: He came back after them and they were shocked. And what's actually happened is rather than her coming out of it and Ryan Reynolds, who were this golden couple looking really great because they're fighting sexual assault or whatever.

They're fighting. They've come back as looking like complete ********.

Speaker A: Well, yeah. And then.

Speaker B: Or fabricating stuff or whatever they're doing.

Speaker A: Exactly.

Speaker B: And you know, and I think, I mean, you think, okay, well, maybe that is a good thing that we've had to actually question. Just because they said it doesn't mean it happened.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: And I don't know, maybe it did happen and I don't know enough about it. But I think the bad.

Speaker A: The horrible part about it, I mean, not the horrible, but they're the other part of it. It's like the movie that they were working on was about sexual. About sexual assault or something like that.

Like the relationship.

Speaker B: A long term relationship.

Speaker A: Exactly.

Speaker B: Was he violent or who?

Speaker A: I haven't watched the movie, but that's the whole point. I completely removed the want to watch this movie because you have this like PR disaster above it that you're like, well, none of this is making me want to watch this movie because you're both ******* ******** also.

Speaker B: I can't believe it now.

Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.

Speaker B: How am I going to watch this and think, oh, yeah, this is really. You know, because, you know, when you obviously watch movies, you know, they're actors, but you go into this other world.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Forget about that. Well, how on earth are we gonna be able to do that now?

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: I mean, the only thing about that is it sort of shone this light on the fact that just because you're this megastar, you can't Just do what you want.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: And I don't know how this is gonna end. And, you know, dear God, we need something else to talk about. Yeah.

Speaker A: But there will be other Blondie Blues. I'm sure there are people that are women that are seeing this happen. There will be other Belle Gibsons that will try to make money off of things that's already happening.

Right. Like, we just have to, as a community, as a social online community,

be smarter.

Speaker B: Well, ask questions.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: And, you know, I would say not be so involved.

Speaker A: And it's just like, politicians were so, like, involved, and we want to, like, love our politicians so much and, like, whoever we're talking about. And it's like, not everything they do is, like, gold and like, not everything they do, like.

We should question.

Speaker B: You should question. You should look at information from different sources. I know this sounds very genexy of me. You should read. Wow.

Speaker A: No.

Speaker B: And you should look at different kinds. And don't just read the source or the news source, which is following your beliefs. Read everything to try and get some kind of picture of what's going on.

And definitely do not use TikTok as your sole search engine.

Speaker A: No. Yeah. And also, I mean, if you're a fan of Bonnie Blue or any of these other kind of onlyfans, girls, like, maybe just, like, watch another kind of **** so you don't kind of think.

Start thinking this is normal behavior. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, but I. But, you know, let's be honest. The people who are going and queuing up to have sex with Bunny Blue, there's all.

Speaker A: See, it's a man's problem too. I'm sorry, guys.

Speaker B: There are many other questions. There are many other questions. I mean, it's just.

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Speaker B: Well, I mean, so obviously the whole episode is the fetish of attention, and I think that we all have a ****** problem with it.

Speaker A: We have. That's the thing that's what we're kind of trying to get at. It's like, as a community, as a global community, because you can find anything.

Speaker B: Oh, anything. Anything about anything.

Speaker A: If you are. If you. If something weird, you have a weird fetish of any kind you can find online, you can find a community for it, whether it's on Reddit or Facebook or any of these ******* weird places, you can find what and who you're looking for.

Dating apps, everyone's trying to get into different kind of places.

Right. Like, you can find whoever you're looking for if you look in the right places,

but if you're not doing, like, I always do a background check about if I'm going on a weird date. You know what I mean?

Speaker B: How do you do a background check?

Speaker A: Well, I mean, I'm not like a police officer, but, like, you have to Google.

Speaker B: Google the person who.

Speaker A: You. And I Google their picture. I try to do as much as I can before I go on that very public date with them.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: And it shouldn't be any different than if we are gung ho about an influencer or, like, you know, trying to back someone online who we have. No. We actually have no idea about this person.

Speaker B: Yeah. 100%. I. I just think that there's nothing wrong with influencers and creators and people online selling things and whatever they're promoting.

I just think just. Just check, you know, don't believe everything you hear and. And just maybe check it. Like Belle Gibson. I think one of the reasons that happened is.

Cause that was the very early days of it.

Speaker A: Exactly.

Speaker B: And so now people are obviously much more heightened to this. And it's very sad that that happened. And I think it's sad because it shows how deeply flawed we are as human beings.

And it's sort of depressing that we'll just about sell our grandma that will sell anything to make a buck. And I think that's what's so depressing about it. Like, oh, my God, you're gonna peddle cancer.

Like, what? Depths of murky. Loners.

Speaker A: And also, just because it's. It's exhausting research. No. Like, we're not all doctors. If someone says that they have an illness of whatever kind that is, I'm not looking it up.

Mcmel, if you told me you had some kind of a disease, I'm not gonna. I would believe you. I would not research that for myself. I would just take your word for.

Speaker B: It because it's weird. And also it's sad and depressing. That's. I'm gonna leave it on that.

Speaker A: Yeah, that's okay.

Thanks for that. Absolutely warm ending there. That's perfecto.

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