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Mel: Hello, darling.

Suzie: How are you?

Mel: I'm fabulous.

Suzie: No, you're glowing today. Am I? Did you get a face pull?

Mel: A who a facial?

Suzie: I cannot transplant or face a facelift.

Mel: No, I didn't.

Suzie: You look excellent.

Mel: It's just Chanel makeup, babes.

Suzie: ******* love it. I mean, you know, you could always get, like a facial.

Mel: Oh, yeah, I do that too, but just not today.

Suzie: I'm talking about the dirty one.

Mel: Oh, that kind of. No, no, thank you, I'm sure. Lovely. Yikes. She always. You always have to bring it down.

Suzie: Sorry.

Mel: Here we are in this serene, sophisticated environment, and you've just lowered the tone, Susie.

Suzie: Not serene, sophisticated. If only they knew.

Mel: It's just lowered the tone.

Suzie: Anyway, okay, we'll love you guys. Um, we're so excited to be with you here today. I can't speak at all, apparently. Um, but we have a funny little epi for y'all today. We're gonna be talking about. We've done an episode like this before and I think a lot of our audience liked it because I love reading these in my spare time. And it's the am I the *******? Blog on Reddit? And there's so many bad ones, but there's so many good bad ones. And I found this one and I thought it was kind of relevant to our lives, my life, anyway.

Mel: To your life.

Suzie: Maybe your life too, Mel.

Mel: Yeah, perhaps.

Suzie: And to maybe your audience lives.

Mel: My audience. I just love the way people share this stuff. Like they've got the time and want.

Suzie: Other people's opinions on there.

Mel: I love it. So you're gonna get ours.

Suzie: Yeah, they ******* are.

Mel: Golden.

Suzie: Golden.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Okay, here she goes. My. Oh, she's a 25 year old female. Her boyfriend's 28, and he likes to be called daddy in bed while we're being intimate. I've obliged his request, but it's starting to creep me out. And I've decided I don't want to do it anymore. He is not happy with this and insists it has nothing to do with the connotation of the word. He just simply enjoys hearing me say it. Since he wasn't budging on the issue, I told him I'd like for him to call me grandma in bed as a compromise. He didn't like this option and said it was giving him visuals he would prefer not to have. Like, okay, join the ******* club. Anyways, the last time he tried to initiate intimacy with me, I started to refer myself as grandma in the third person example. Do you like when grandma does that? Etcetera. And he flew off the handle, said I ruined the mood, made him feel gross, and I was being ridiculous. I think I proved my point, but he thinks that I'm an *******. So am I the *******. Mel, you go first.

Mel: Okay, so I think I have a human take and a Gen X take.

Suzie: A human take and a Gen X take.

Mel: Like a generic take.

Suzie: Got it.

Mel: So I think number one is the term daddy, which in the last. You know, what's that famous actor, what's he called? The guy who is called the daddy of the Internet.

Suzie: Oh, Pablo. Yeah, Pablo.

Mel: Pablo, Pablo, Pablo. And I saw it the other day, actually, in one of the actors on, because they're doing all the pr for. What's that? Emily. Emily in Paris. Right. And one of the french actors who doesn't speak very good well, speaks English, but obviously second language, and somebody said daddy to him, and he's just like, not in a sexual context. And he's just like, what do you mean? Are you talking about me as a. Like, he couldn't, you know. So I think what the Gen X thing that I'm saying is, I think it's a relatively, like, it's become a thing, right? Saying daddy. And so it's kind of hard for me to get it from that point of view. Like, it's become such a big thing saying daddy, right? Because of. I don't know why. It's like, in the. It's on TikTok, it's all these shows, blah, blah, blah.

Suzie: I mean, before it was on TikTok, like, before it was like a Gen Z thing, I think, you know, it.

Mel: Was a thing, but it was a mega perverted.

Suzie: Was it mega perverted in your times?

Mel: Maybe? That's my take on it, because I. I do have a bit of an issue with men who kind of like, the schoolgirl look, the kind of Britney spears that first video. Because, I mean, let's just not dance around the point. I mean, we know what they like, and that's a little troubling to me. I find something in there I can't quite wrap my brain around. Like, you know, men who like their wives to dress up as schoolgirls. I just have a. And I'm pretty open minded.

Suzie: You are extremely open minded as a Gen x little british queen.

Mel: I know. Yeah. I've got all those layers on me, like an onion. But I feel it.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: There's just something about it. So if you want to be called daddy, I mean, why?

Suzie: Here's the thing.

Mel: I mean, I know, but may I? Yeah, please. So I think I've done.

Suzie: I, um. I enjoy. Do you like calling man daddy?

Mel: Yes, but that's. Do you think that's because you have daddy issues? Is that too.

Suzie: I wanted to say it. Um.

Mel: Sorry.

Suzie: I mean, I have never been to a therapist.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: They might be able to tell me it's possible. I'm not gonna say it's not possible, but I'd also say that, I don't know, it's something so deviant and sexy and hot to just call your man daddy and then he feels more in control, and then you feel like more. You're being controlled, which I like.

Mel: Okay. Which we differ on this point.

Suzie: So you like being the dominatrix in bed?

Mel: Yes. I'm not. I don't like being overpowered.

Suzie: Right. So you like to be the sexy teacher with a rule stick. Well, I prefer to be the sexy.

Mel: Let's put it this girl. I'm better at that. Oh, I don't, like.

Suzie: Need a good spinkin.

Mel: Here she goes. I don't like the feeling.

Suzie: Right.

Mel: I think I could be generation cup is me. It could be lots of things. I don't like being overpowered. I really don't like the feeling.

Suzie: Right.

Mel: It has all sorts of connotations that I don't like that I've never really thought about, or I've never kind of analyzed what that actually means. Right. But it's just not my jam, as it were. I get the taboo bit, but I guess it's the thing that is taboo that bothers me. It's not like any other taboo thing. It's that just. What does that mean? I don't know. Does it have to? I know it doesn't have to mean anything, and we've talked about this, but I do understand why she might have a problem with it. Because she's coming at it. She's Gen Z. She's coming. From my point of view, she finds it creepy. Yeah.

Suzie: Like, I mean, if it's not your jam, it's gross. Like, if it's.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: If something's not your jam in bed, which is like a very, like, you need things if you want to get off. You're not going to do that for the other person unless it's your jam. You know what I mean? Like, you have to be interested in what they want and what you want. You have to have that sort of kind of compatibility. You can't just always be doing what the other person wants. If you don't want to call your gan daddy because it freaks you out a little bit, which is understandable. You know, if that's not your, like, fetish type thing, then, yeah, you shouldn't. He shouldn't be asking that from you if you don't feel comfortable. But also, he should go find someone else who maybe wants that more.

Mel: Yeah. So let's just. I'm not gonna, like, delve into private life because that's.

Suzie: You can delve in.

Mel: Okay, so do you like the daddy thing because you like older men? Is it in connection with that?

Suzie: Here's the thing. Okay.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: I thought it was right because I do like older men.

Mel: Yes.

Suzie: And that's hot to me. But I've been starting to date younger guys. Younger, as in, like, my age or, like, a few years older, and I started to call them daddy in bed, and I was surprised by this for myself. Like, they didn't ask me to do that, but I would just do it because it turns me on.

Mel: What do they say?

Suzie: They haven't said anything.

Mel: They don't really care.

Suzie: They don't really care. They're just, like, happy to ******* be inside me. Let's be real. So, yeah, so, I mean, I think it depends on. Do you think. I mean, for the men, does it depend on whether they actually are a dad? Because I feel like if I was an actual dad, it'd be weird for my girlfriend or wife to call me daddy. Right?

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: I don't know.

Mel: But some of the men, they aren't actual dads.

Suzie: I know. And they haven't said anything. They actually like it.

Mel: So what do you think? I just don't think they care.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And let's be frank. This thing is about the girl not liking it. Not the girl.

Suzie: Yes.

Mel: So you're saying it to these men?

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: This girl doesn't like that. He's asking her to say it's the other way around. So do you see what I mean? Yeah. So the question is, why does he want to say it? It's a power thing.

Suzie: It's a power thing. But then the fact.

Mel: Something else. Why do you say daddy?

Suzie: The fact that, like, she's like, kind of coming back at him and being like, kind of being funny. I'm actually like, I respect this girl so much for doing this, of being like, call me grandma.

Mel: I think that's hilarious.

Suzie: Turns me the **** on. So call it to me. Call me grandma.

Mel: I do think that's quite funny, but I think that's the end of their relationship.

Suzie: Oh, my God. Yeah.

Mel: Because if you are taking, as far as I'm concerned, if you take the **** out of somebody in a sexual context, it's over. If anything, you make fun of somebody, you deride them. It's very nice. Very nice. You put them down. You like whatever it is. If, let's say they've dressed sexy and you sort of laugh at them or you put them down or they say something. I think that's the end. I think that is the nail in the coffin. ****.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: It's very bad. So I don't.

Suzie: But she obviously got to a point of like, this is all I can do now because I don't want to do this.

Mel: She doesn't like it.

Suzie: She doesn't like it. But I don't think she's the ******* for doing this. But I think she just took a stand and now they're gonna break up.

Mel: And that's just that 100. I don't think she's an ******* at all. She doesn't like it. And at the end of the day, sex has to be what you like. You said what you both want. And whatever those boundaries are within, whatever you're doing, as long as they're legal, I'd like to carry out that is is really up to you.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: You've got to both want it. And we've talked about this in connection with like, threesomes and stuff like that. That many very frequently. It's one person wants something and then you go down a road and it screws everything up. Screw. Sorry, using that. Didn't mean to that pun, but, and this is something. If that's not what she wants, she has to make it clear. But I think she probably could have done it. The only thing I would say is done it in a different way and just said, I really don't like saying that. For me, it's not sexy, like, for you. It has connotations of whatever, but for me, it has, like, creepy connotations. So they should have actually had a conversation. But I do understand that maybe he wasn't willing to listen. Yeah. And I. And I also get in a sexual contest. Like, if we start analyzing too much, it's just like, no, this isn't the point of sex. And that's the problem. Don't overanalyze everything. But if she, at the end of the day, I think if you don't like something, then you need to tell your partner and you don't do it, and you have to find another thing to do. And that's. It's just not that word.

Suzie: Yeah. Like, I. If I couldn't, if my guy that I was living with felt weird about me calling him daddy, I might just have to find another guy to sleep.

Mel: With to say daddy.

Suzie: Yeah. Because that's how much it's kind of, like, in my sexual vocabulary when I'm doing it, because I'm a very talkative person.

Mel: Not shocking, not like, yeah, yeah, I.

Suzie: Can'T shut the **** up. But, yeah, like, I'm very like, you know, I like dirty talk while it's happening. So it's like, if I were to be with someone silent, or if they were like, can you shut the **** up, please? Unless they were to, like, you know.

Mel: Yeah. Anyways, but where do you think the daddy. Where does that.

Suzie: Maybe it's daddy issues and that's okay.

Mel: But where does it even come from? Why does it come to your head to say that?

Suzie: I don't know. I think it just. It's like, it's a de. I hate to say this. It's like a devaluing thing for women, which it's like, obviously, like, I find I pride myself in everything else when I'm outside the bedroom and I know how powerful and strong I am, so I'm like, just put me down a little bit. Just put me down a peg.

Mel: Yeah. You know, that's so interesting because that is frequently the way with people.

Suzie: Yes.

Mel: If they're very powerful in life or they have some higher power job, they kind of want to be spanked and wear diapers or whatever. Yeah.

Suzie: I mean, I definitely don't want to.

Mel: Say that I'm taking it to the extreme, but I'm just saying I think that's. It's interesting. Like, we live out things in our, in our sex life, I guess. I don't know. Like, you know, if I look from my point of view, I just do not, like at all the idea of being overpowered.

Suzie: So interesting.

Mel: I don't like it at all.

Suzie: Do you feel like you're in control in your everyday life?

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Like, you're very powerful. Like, do you like to be, like, the hot?

Mel: Well, I get what I want.

Suzie: ***** onto. Yeah, of course you do.

Mel: Yeah. Maybe in a different way. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't say I'm, like. You're talking about, like, the girl boss, like, ***** kind of. That's not my thing. That's not my vibe at all. I'd say I do get what I want in the end. No, but I just. I'm not somebody who's like that. I'm not a bitchy kind of. It's just not the way I am. But I just do not like any kind of recreation of overfarring. Yeah, maybe. Maybe it's the revival.

Suzie: Maybe you hate your father. I have daddy issues with. My bad. But that's, like, not like I hate him. You.

Mel: I mean, I do hate.

Suzie: You hate your father.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And that's totally fair and fine. And maybe that's the thing. You cannot stand to even hear that.

Mel: Like, it never even occurred to me to use that word.

Suzie: So interesting.

Mel: But I just don't like the feeling of being overpowered in any capacity.

Suzie: You don't want to be called a dirty sled in bed?

Mel: No. Wow. I don't. What a life. I can't even imagine that overpowered, like, in any way physically. Like, you know, I know a lot of women who like to sort of have hands around their throat, so I was like, can't do any of that. Don't want that. I can't do that. That's not my thing. I'm incapable.

Suzie: What do you like to spank? Do you spank your husband? What are you doing? I spanked my husband. But I'm naughty.

Mel: I just. It's not really. I mean, I think, you know, get everyone going. I'm not exactly a dominatrix, although I do actually think I could be a really. I've missed my calling. I think I could have done that.

Suzie: This is what I'm saying. You literally are the british school teacher.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Like, come so naturally to me. 100%.

Mel: Very naturally to me.

Suzie: Teach the boys how it's done.

Mel: Very. Yes. I think I could have been in another life, maybe. Still, babes, the dominatrix. Your life's an all Milfy dominatrix. That's you, New York or something.

Suzie: And with that posh little accent.

Mel: Yeah, yeah, I think that's fantastic. If you can make money cause you.

Suzie: Don'T have to sleep with them if you're a dumbass.

Mel: Exactly. It's amazing.

Suzie: You just tell them what to do. They literally clean your bathroom.

Mel: And you're like, there's this woman in the UK. Cause we're like, you know, obviously seriously deranged and perverted Britain. And she goes on, like, national television. She's like, being on all these interviews on national tv. I'm going really off topic. And she is a. Yeah, I guess she's a dominatrix. Her clients come to her. She doesn't have sex with them.

Suzie: No.

Mel: And they do like, the work around the house, sort of dressed in whatever with dog collar on, whatever. But, yeah, I mean, it's super weird. A little bit much, but they don't actually have sex. I'm not saying just I don't actually want to do this, but, you know, on the other hand, it's a good way of making money, isn't it? Yeah, that's too much, honestly. But I'm just talking about the. It's interesting, like, this idea of submissive and dominant. And we're not talking in a bdsm thing, which we've talked about before. No, but I mean, just in a regular kind of sexual dynamic.

Suzie: Where do you fit into your, like, sexual compatibility with the other person? Yeah, it's really hard if you're both subs because you're gonna want to be kind of. You kind of want to be taken over and the other person doesn't know how to do that, or they don't want to do that. And so that's, like, incompatible. And, like, if you're both dominant, maybe it could be fun, but, like, it's just a little bit too much. Maybe because the other person wants the sub. Right. So, yeah, it's just. It's a power struggle.

Mel: But I wonder also, like, in this relationship, a lot of people need to go somewhere else. Like, they become another Persona.

Suzie: Yeah, yeah.

Mel: So he. You're talking about yourself. Like he's saying, I sort of need to be this other Persona for whatever reason. And a lot of people don't. They're just sexier. They're just them, but they're sexier. Like, they don't need kind of the stuff. Does that make sense? And that could be good and that could be bad. And maybe she just doesn't need, like, it can be a very sexy environment, but she doesn't need words or there are things that just, like. That's just too much. Yeah, I mean, and I. I do get it.

Suzie: Well, I am. I. So I went to the comments to see if.

Mel: Yeah, what if people agree.

Suzie: So this person says, not the *******. And then they said, if he persists in demanding daddy, you could ramp up. You could ramp it up a notch and say, oh, you like grandma's cookies, don't you? Oh, you're such a handsome young man.

Mel: And that's so creepy.

Suzie: It's really funny.

Mel: It's just beyond creepy. So I think grandma's cookie. I mean, it's very funny, but it's somewhat disturbing.

Suzie: I think most people are saying that she's not the *******, which obviously we.

Mel: Yeah, she's not the. But it is interesting that you're with a guy who wants to be called daddy. Therefore, according to your logic, is somebody who wants to be dominant.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: Which she obviously doesn't like. Yeah. In my school.

Suzie: Yes.

Mel: So what the **** is she doing with this guy?

Suzie: Exactly.

Mel: So that's kind of weird.

Suzie: I mean, it's hard when you have such a nice relationship outside the bedroom, which I think a lot of people have dealt with. And then you get into that zone where you want to **** and now you're, like, incompatible. It's like so weird.

Mel: Well, yeah, and I think if you. You can also get into the zone when you're in the bedroom and you have to take on a Persona. I guess we all take on some kind of Persona, but you have to take an exaggerated Persona and the other person doesn't.

Suzie: Well, if you want to be yourself, like, it's like the most fun, where you can just have fun and be yourself and, like, be your sexy self, whatever that looks like. And so if. If this person is not letting you do that or you don't feel like you can actually be yourself or, like, enjoy yourself, then there's literally no point.

Mel: No, there's no point. There's literally no point at all. But I think that some people that, and we've never actually talked about this, I think some people really have to take on are really a Persona to actually come out of themselves, to, like, go into the bedroom and do. Do their thing. They literally have to sort of be another person. I do understand that. Because they're shy, they're not confident, they're not. So they become something else.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And then other people don't. And some people are somewhere in between. And as we know with anything in life, there's all these ranges of what people are. But I would say this is not brilliant. And she's definitely not the *******. She definitely should express her opinion. She has an issue with it. I'm not sure this is the guy.

Suzie: I don't think it's the guy for you. And if you do actually want to be called grandma in bed as a sexual thing and not a funny thing, that's cool, too.

Mel: Well, I mean, you know, if that's what you want.

Suzie: Sounds like it's just a funny thing for now. But maybe you're gonna turn it into a kink in a fetish, and you're gonna have guys lined up at the door who want to be grandma.

Mel: I mean, God, yeah, they're probably are.

Suzie: Anything's possible. Anyway, so we have a little thing. And also, guys, if you guys have an opinion about this, maybe you do like to be called daddy. Maybe you don't like to be called daddy. Maybe you do like to say daddy in bed. We want to hear from you, and I want to know why.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Did your therapist tell you? Because you should tell me so that I can just take that therapist advice and I have to pay $200 an hour.

Mel: That's true. That would be.

Suzie: So. That'd be really helpful.

Mel: Okay.

Suzie: But, yeah. So we're going to talk about now our little segment. What's the T Mel and I were talking about this earlier. What is the T Mel?

Mel: It's this Netflix documentary called it's the man who's had a thousand children. The man with a thousand kids.

Suzie: Disgusting.

Mel: Have you seen it?

Suzie: Yes.

Mel: Yeah. And I did. I thought I. I watched it because I was, like, I was kind of bored, and I couldn't think of anything else to watch on Netflix. I thought, I'll watch it. And it was really somewhat disturbing.

Suzie: No, it's horrifying.

Mel: And it's so disturbing because, like, this guy is Dutch, and it's in the Netherlands, right? And if you. Bizarrely. I've spent quite a lot of time in the Netherlands, and the Netherlands was not bizarre, but I'm not. Anyway, whatever. It's a very small country, so you can understand, like, if you were in a little town, like, holy ****. And that's what was happening. Like, there were realizing that everyone was related and, oh, my God, then what happens? You know, it's.

Suzie: So he was literally. So he was. If you have to watch the documentary because it's so ******* interesting, but he was having sex. And, like, these women were. Who were desperate for children. Either they were lesbians, or they were just desperate for children because they wanted to. So he was donating sperm to these women off of kind of in actual donation places, but also on, like, weird sites. And these women were contacting him for it.

Mel: He was on a particular site in the Netherlands that I not sure if exists anymore. And they could find because there's all sorts of different laws in different european countries. And that's part of it. I can't remember that much about it. And then he did offer, do you want natural insemination? That is my *****, or do you want the turkey baster? So some women went for the natural.

Suzie: Option, which is like, I cannot believe that.

Mel: Yeah, I mean, I obviously understand.

Suzie: Probably has so many STD's.

Mel: Ugh.

Suzie: Like, what the ****?

Mel: I mean. Yeah, well, maybe actually one of the rules to donate sperm is you do actually have to have a lot of tests done. So maybe that's why I can't remember.

Suzie: I really have no idea.

Mel: You know, this was definitely. Well, it was a story of obviously power talking about daddy issues and also was money because it ended up being some clinic in. Was it somewhere in. Well, so he started.

Suzie: So he would go to clinics all over the world. He did west, he did it in Europe, like all of these countries, because they don't. The donation, don't talk to each other. And so this guy was just able to donate, donate, donate, donate, because you have like a limit per year or however much you can do. Having much ******* could come in a jar per year for these people. And he was doing it literally so many places. And so now the real problem is these poor kids have a million siblings. Not a million, but like, many, many, many more siblings than anyone should have half siblings. And so if they get together.

Mel: Yeah, they need to know their history. It's awful and it's awful. And he's Dutch. And most of the. A lot of the children were the Netherlands. And then he started traveling. And then at the end, I watched this in the summer, so I can't remember the end was something to do with. There was some kind of money. There's a bunch of guys doing. It was very weird.

Suzie: Bunch of guys doing it. It's really weird. It's really creepy. And then they obviously like. And they're like, these women are like, please stop doing this.

Mel: Yeah, man.

Suzie: And then they're like, trying to sue him. I think they did.

Mel: In the end, they took him to court in the Netherlands, but I don't.

Suzie: Think it stopped him.

Mel: It did. Is it? Well, can't remember.

Suzie: But you guys are going to watch it.

Mel: Yeah, there was a court, but it was kind of, it was wild. But what was really interesting was I. I do understand. I mean, I have children. And so I, but I do understand that feeling of like, oh, my God, I want a child. It's almost like your whole body sort of, you know, it's the natural, it's not a natural evolutionary whatever.

Suzie: I can't say.

Mel: It's sort of like, you know, it almost screams I want a baby. And I know several people who haven't been able to have babies. And it's awful. Like, if you want a child, you want a child. It's like total, I'm gonna do this. And then obviously there were couples, I think there were a couple of couples in the show who were lesbian, so obviously they needed a donor. So how do you find the right donor? And obviously, you know, DNA is important. You want somebody, you know, in terms of, I don't know how they look and their, their iq and all that sort of stuff, that's all something you need to take into consideration. But it was so interesting, I thought the desperate drive which I totally get to have a child, it is so powerful. They kind of ignored a lot of red flags. Red flags that I'm not in any way judging because I get it. I understand why you sort of ignored them, or whatever you want to call it, but it is a real friggin pickle. And now this group of women are like very tight because they all kind of bonded. I don't have all the mothers, but a big group of the mothers and obviously so, and then it's good those siblings know. These are my siblings, but of course they don't know.

Suzie: Well, because, like scientific thing where it's like siblings who don't know that they're siblings. Like half siblings. Yeah, will, if they meet. And the like, Netherlands swedish community, whatever he was doing it most in was like, it's like very small and all the kids look alike anyway. They're all blonde and blue eye, so, but the ones that are actual siblings or half siblings will look at each other and they'll be like. And they'll have an instant connection.

Mel: Attraction also an attraction very common.

Suzie: And so, and they can't explain it. And then they don't know why. And then they, it's just, it's so.

Mel: It'S very ****** up. I mean, there've been many stories of this, of siblings who don't know their siblings and meet randomly in life or parents and like all sorts of familial kind of things and they don't know and they don't know why they have this attraction. Yeah. And obviously it's super, it's very serious. And, you know, in this part of the Netherlands that, you know, the Netherlands is a small country. It's really small. Like, you can cross it very easily. So it's very, it's not a big population, obviously. It's not, you know, minutes, not nothing, but still, that's a lot of people. And it's super disturbing and very, very concerning if you're the parent. And I know in the show I was watching it, they kept saying, can you just stop? What are you doing? What are you doing? And he wouldn't. And of course, there are all sorts of super ****** up issues of power and money, whatever he was doing. And you just think to yourself, I mean, how much money do you get paid?

Suzie: Well, if you are, like, adopted, or if you have an adopted parent and you do, like, 23 andme, there's literally always gonna be a chance that your father ****** someone.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: And now you possibly have a sibling out there that you had no idea about. Like, that's actually, I was talking to one of my clients the other day, and he was telling me this crazy story about how his. He, like, they just, like, found a sister because his dad didn't know, because, you know, just one time. And, like, back then, no one had cell phones and, like, didn't have Facebook. So how the hell are you gonna ever find this person again?

Mel: Well, it happened actually to somebody I know, so I'll keep their names. Where the parents, the two older people, didn't know each other. Their siblings. They didn't know each other growing up. They grew up in different countries and they met and they didn't know they were siblings. You're instantly attracted. And they do live together. Still do. And it's super.

Suzie: They're sibling siblings. Like, full on sibling siblings. Sibling siblings.

Mel: Yes. Yeah. I mean, I won't give the cont because then you'll kind of. But it's.

Suzie: It's not the royal family, is it?

Mel: No, I'm not that posh, and. But although they are, that's another whole gene pool mess. But no, they're actually siblings. And they live together. Yeah. In a faraway land, far away, not here or in, in the west. But it's. It is very common where people have an. I mean, it sort of makes sense, but it's super disturbing. Yeah. And I, you know. Yeah. I mean, it's a horrible story. I feel hot for these families. And what do you do? How do you prepare these children? It's super ****** up. Yeah.

Suzie: I mean, they, they did have an adopt like that. That child is going to ask questions anyways, if they don't have a dad.

Mel: A hundred percent.

Suzie: So there is that conversation that hopefully. But there was couples that were men and women couples.

Mel: So that's tough because it segway, because I know is either the campaigner or the lawyer or whoever was helping them is from another famous story. Yes. The doctor inseminated. Yeah. And I think that was another nick. Well, he didn't **** them.

Suzie: Sorry. He didn't **** them. He inseminated.

Mel: They went there for fertility treatment and he used his own, which is disgusting.

Suzie: Unbelievable.

Mel: Yeah. I mean, just. Oh, my God.

Suzie: Yeah.

Mel: And it. What is so gross about it? I think my final word is it. You know, a woman in that position is so vulnerable, feels so desperate for a child. You know, the clock, literally, you feel like it's ticking. And it is ticking. You only have a certain window of time. You're so desperate, and you'll kind of literally do anything. And they're preying on that, and it's revolting. I mean, and he didn't care. This guy, this dutch guy, whatever his name was, he didn't give a **** that he's like, oh, what do you worry about that? They're all these siblings. I'll be fine. Well, actually, if we're all sort of living within a whatever mile radius of each other in a small country, there's a very high possibility they're going to have to go through every relationship. They have every contact. I mean, how do you even do that? I don't even know. You can't do that, can you? And what do you do? Do you actually just go through your life and just go, he's just like a narcissist. What do you do? I mean, you can't ask everybody for a DNA test. I don't even know how you deal with that. I mean, it's horrendous. I mean, the only way to deal with it is to move far away to a different country. And even then, you.

Suzie: Even then, you don't.

Mel: I guess you don't.

Suzie: You're in tears.

Mel: Yeah.

Suzie: Anyways, guys, maybe you guys have found a weird sibling that is actually your boyfriend and you want to tell us about it. Like, who knows? We want to hear about it.

Mel: Yeah, well, I'm not sure that I do, but.

Suzie: Okay.

Mel: Anyway, that's that.

Suzie: But, yeah, hopefully you don't have. This story is about you, but maybe it is and you guys want to talk about it. We'd love to hear from you. Share your story with us. We love you guys. So much. And we'll see you next time.

Mel: We will. Bye bye.

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